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|    clicliclic@freenet.de to Richard Fateman    |
|    Re: Another way ... Re: elementarily int    |
|    16 Mar 18 23:02:46    |
      Richard Fateman schrieb:       >       > If you really want to know a symbolic form for this       > integral, approximately, with possible relevance to some definite interval,       > you can expand the integrand into a taylor series       > about some suitable nearby point in that interval, and integrate that.       >       > Using this taylor / integrate procedure you can also get a check on whether       > your answer is right, by computing a taylor series of the answer. Ignore       > the constant terms though.       >       > This can actually be much improved over other checking techniques since       > simplification of taylor series results may be more straightforward than       > mucking about with some random collection of algebraic, transcendental,       > and special functions. I found that I had to replace abs(x) with x in some       > cases.       >       > This does not so much address the question of integrability in finite terms       > as finding an integrable representation of something approximating the       > integrand. Which might be a suitable replacement of a possibly       > unsolvable problem with a useful substitute.       > It certainly works for the problem below.       > RJF       >       > On 3/16/2018 9:30 AM, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote:       > > On 3/16/2018 10:18 AM, clicliclic@freenet.de wrote:       >       > ...snip...       > >>       > >> integrate((5*x-9*sqrt(6)+26)/((x^2-4*x-50)*sqrt(x^3-30*x-56)), x)       > >>...snip...              The question was asked in the purely mathematical context of       integrability in elementary terms, and in the hope that the integral       could be confirmed to be pseudo-elliptic.              Martin.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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