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|    clicliclic@freenet.de to clicliclic@freenet.de    |
|    Re: elementarily integrable or not?    |
|    19 Mar 18 18:40:19    |
      clicliclic@freenet.de schrieb:       >       > Here's a much more deadly failure:       >       > setSimplifyDenomsFlag(true)       >       > integrate((7*x + 6*sqrt(17*sqrt(2) + 23) + 9*sqrt(2) + 34)       > /((x^2 + 2*x*(3*sqrt(sqrt(2) + 1) + 1) + 6*sqrt(58*sqrt(2) + 82)       > - 18*sqrt(2) - 26)*sqrt(x^3 - 30*x - 56)), x)       >       > is returned unevaluated on the web interface. But my oracle says that       > the integand is pseudo-elliptic according to Goursat:       >       > goursat3((7*x + 6*SQRT(17*SQRT(2) + 23) + 9*SQRT(2) + 34)       > /(x^2 + 2*x*(3*SQRT(SQRT(2) + 1) + 1) + 6*SQRT(58*SQRT(2) + 82)       > - 18*SQRT(2) - 26), x, -56, -30, 0, 1)       >       > [false, false, false, true]       >       > The last answer counts.       >              Since the oracle was characteristically cryptic, I should supply some       details. Putting x = (6 - 3*SQRT(2))*t - 4 one finds:              SQRT(x^3 - 30*x - 56) =       3*SQRT(12 - 6*SQRT(2))*SQRT(t*(1 - t)*(1 - (SQRT(2) - 1)^2*t))              So Legendre's modulus k of the elliptic radical takes the nice special       value SQRT(2) - 1. The quadratic in the denominator of the integrand       divides the division polynomial of order four for the elliptic curve       y^2 = x^3 - 30*x - 56. The antiderivative consists of two terms:              6*(2*SQRT(SQRT(2) + 1) - SQRT(2))/7        * INT((7*x + 6*SQRT(17*SQRT(2) + 23) + 9*SQRT(2) + 34)        / ((x^2 + 2*x*(3*SQRT(SQRT(2) + 1) + 1) + 6*SQRT(58*SQRT(2) + 82)        - 18*SQRT(2) - 26)*SQRT(x^3 - 30*x - 56)), x)        = 2/(SQRT(3*SQRT(2) + 6) - SQRT(3)*2^(3/4))        * ATANH((SQRT(3*SQRT(2) + 6) - SQRT(3)*2^(3/4))*(x - 3*SQRT(2) - 2)        / SQRT(x^3 - 30*x - 56)) - SQRT(6 - 3*SQRT(2))/3        * ATAN(SQRT(6*SQRT(2) + 12)*(x + 4)/SQRT(x^3 - 30*x - 56))              Having this integral declared non-elementary constitutes a bug that       seriously undermines trust in the FriCAS integrator.              Martin.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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