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|    06 Apr 25 23:43:39    |
      [continued from previous message]              >in October 2019, shortly before the pandemic began, to simulate a deadly       >coronavirus pandemic; the findings explicitly urged that “[t]ravel and       >trade … be maintained even in the face of a pandemic”. Similarly, a WHO       >paper in 2019 said that some measures – such as border closures and       >contact tracing – were “not recommended in any circumstances”.       >       >“And yet we did all of that in short order,” Macedo said, “and without       >people referring back to these plans.”       >       >He and Lee also believe there was a strong element of class bias, with a       >left-leaning “laptop class” that could easily work from home touting       >anti-Covid measures that were much easier for some Americans to adopt       >than others. Many relatively affluent Americans became even wealthier       >during the pandemic, in part due to rising housing values.       >       >At the same time, the laptop class was only able to socially isolate at       >home in part because other people risked exposure to provide groceries.       >Stay-at-home measures were partly intended to protect “essential       >workers”, but policymakers living in crisis-stricken major metropolitan       >areas such as New York or Washington DC did not reckon with why social       >distancing and other measures might be less important in rural parts of       >the country where Covid rates were lower.       >       >Lockdowns were intended to slow Covid’s spread, yet previous pandemic       >recommendations had suggested they only be used very early in an       >outbreak and even then do not buy much time, Macedo said.       >       >two people stand next to each other smiling       >View image in fullscreen       >Stephen Macedo and Frances Lee. Photograph: Courtesy of Stephen Macedo       >Policymakers and experts often embraced stringent measures for reasons       >that are more political than medical, Macedo and Lee argue; in a       >pandemic, authorities are keen to assure anxious publics that they are       >“in charge” and “doing something”.       >       >In strange contrast, policymakers and journalists in the US and       >elsewhere seemed to take China as a model, the book argues, despite the       >fact that China is an authoritarian state and had concealed the scale of       >the outbreak during the crucial early days of the pandemic. Its regime       >had obvious incentives to mislead foreign observers, and used draconian       >quarantine measures such as physically welding people into their homes.       >       >When the WHO organized a joint China field mission with the Chinese       >government, in February 2020, non-Chinese researchers found it difficult       >to converse with their Chinese counterparts away from government       >handlers. Yet the WHO’s report was “effusive in its praise” of China’s       >approach, the book notes.       >       >“My view is that there was just a great deal of wishful thinking on the       >part of technocrats of all kinds,” Lee said. “They wanted there to be an       >answer – that if we do X and Y, we can prevent this disaster. And so       >they’re kind of grasping at straws. The Chinese example gave them hope.”       >She noted that Covid policymakers might have been better served if there       >had been people assigned to act as devil’s advocates in internal       >deliberations.       >       >Lee and Macedo are not natural scientists or public health       >professionals, they emphasize, and their book is about failures in       >public deliberation over Covid-19, rather than a prescription for       >managing pandemics.       >       >But they do wade into the debate about Covid-19’s origin, arguing that       >the “lab leak” hypothesis – that Covid-19 accidentally leaked from the       >Wuhan Institute of Virology, rather than spontaneously leaping from       >animals to humans – was unfairly dismissed.       >       >The Wuhan Institute studied coronaviruses similar to the one responsible       >for Covid-19, had a documented history of safety breaches, was located       >near the outbreak, and is known to have experimented on viruses using       >controversial “gain-of-function” methods funded by the US, which involve       >mutating pathogens to see what they might look like in a more advanced       >or dangerous form.       >       >If policymakers had been more honest with the public about these       >uncertainties, I think they would have maintained public trust better       >Perhaps because Trump had fanned racial paranoia by calling Covid-19 the       >“China virus” and rightwing influencers were spreading the notion that       >it had been deliberately engineered and unleashed on the world by China,       >many scientists, public health experts and journalists reacted by       >framing the idea of a lab leak – even an accidental one – as an       >offensive conspiracy theory. Dr Anthony Fauci and other top public       >health figures were evasive or in some cases dishonest about the       >possibility of a lab leak, Macedo and Lee say, as well as the fact that       >a US non-profit funded by the National Institutes of Health allegedly       >funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute.       >       >Since then, though, the CIA and other US intelligence agencies have       >cautiously endorsed the lab leak theory, and the discourse around Covid       >has softened somewhat. The economist Emily Oster sparked immense       >backlash by arguing against school closures in 2020. Now publications       >such as New York Magazine and the New York Times have acknowledged the       >plausibility of the lab leak hypothesis, for example, and there is       >growing consensus that school closures hurt many children.       >       >The reception to In Covid’s Wake has been more positive than Macedo and       >Lee expected – perhaps a sign that some of their arguments have       >penetrated the mainstream, if not that we’ve gotten better as a society       >at talking about difficult things. “The reception of the book has been       >much less controversial [and] contentious than we expected,” Macedo said.       >       >cashiers putting groceries in shopping bags       >Disposable: what Covid-19 did to those who couldn’t afford to fight the       >virus       >Read more       >Yet the wounds fester and debates continue. Some readers of the New York       >Times were furious when The Daily, the newspaper’s flagship podcast,       >recently interviewed them, with subscribers arguing that the episode was       >not sufficiently critical of their stance. And some coverage of the book       >has criticized it for underplaying the danger of the disease.       >       >Macedo and Lee said that a few of their colleagues have expressed       >concern that their critique could fuel political attacks on science – a       >worry that crossed their minds too. “Our response is that the best way       >to refute criticisms that science and universities have been politicized       >is to be open to criticism and willing to engage in self-criticism,”       >Macedo said.       >       >“We need to make sure these institutions are in the best possible       >working order to face the challenges ahead. And we think that’s by being       >honest, not by covering over mistakes or being unwilling to face up to       >hard questions.”              HeartDoc Andrew's profile photo       HeartDoc Andrew       Feb 14, 2024, 12:34:03?PM       to       In the interim, we are 100% prepared/protected in the "full armor of       GOD" (Ephesians 6:11) which we put on as soon as we use Apostle Paul's       secret (Philippians 4:12). Though masking is less protective, it helps       us avoid the appearance of doing the evil of spreading airborne       pathogens while there are people getting sick because of not being       100% protected. It is written that we're to "abstain from **all**       appearance of doing evil" (1 Thessalonians 5:22 w/**emphasis**).              Meanwhile, the only *perfect* (Matt 5:47-8 ) way to eradicate the       COVID-19 virus, thereby saving lives, in the US & elsewhere is by              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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