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      [continued from previous message]              >government should be “realistic about alternatives” to the vaccine.       >Two weeks later, it was told its terms of reference were being       >“refreshed” to make clear that it should be a “constructive sounding       >board” for ministers. Rather than its earlier proactive approach, it       >should now focus on being “responsive”.       >Sir Chris meets Boris Johnson and his Covid top team at No 10 Downing       >Street during the pandemic       >Sir Chris meets Boris Johnson and his Covid top team at No 10 Downing       >Street during the pandemic       >In December 2020, MEAG members expressed grave misgivings about a       >proposed rollout of vaccine passports – a policy that would result in       >people being barred from pubs, cafes and restaurants if they failed to       >prove their vaccine status.       >There were “serious concerns” about human rights implications, with       >members questioning the motivation for introducing the passports. They       >raised concerns that the passports could be used by the Government and       >possibly employers to “semi-coerce people into having the vaccine”.       >Minutes from the next meeting, in January 2021, showed that Sir Chris       >advised the group to stop putting its recommendations in writing.       >While England’s chief medical officer “valued the presence of the MEAG       >and the ability to understand complexities” he “counselled against       >producing documentation that offered recommendations, given the       >political aspect of decision-making”.       >Prof Sir Jonathan Montgomery, the co-chairman of MEAG, submitted two       >witness statements to the Covid inquiry, both of which also referred to       >Sir Chris advising the group against putting its recommendations in writing.       >He recalled a meeting at which Sir Chris told him that “producing       >documentation that offered recommendations might not be helpful, given       >the political as well as ethical aspects of decision-making”.       >Sources close to Sir Chris said this was a misunderstanding and that he       >meant to explain that MEAG was an advisory group, meaning it was not       >appropriate for it to put recommendations in writing.       >'Serious concerns' were raised about the human rights implications of       >some Covid policies       >‘Serious concerns’ were raised about the human rights implications of       >some Covid policies Credit: Oli Scarff/AFP via Getty Images       >Some former MEAG members defended Sir Chris’s role, saying he was a       >civil servant acting on the orders of ministers.       >“He was acting as a conduit for those in government,” said one. “He was       >supportive of the work we were doing and could understand why it was       >important to have these discussions – but not the ministers.       >“He is not a political person, he is a civil servant. ‘Political’ is       >really a shorthand for saying ‘the government think you are a thorn in       >their side’.”       >Either way, this appeared to be something of a turning point for MEAG,       >after which the number of its meetings dwindled. There were no meetings       >recorded between April and September 2021, despite the fact that the       >children’s vaccine rollout was being debated and was regarded as one of       >the most ethically contentious decisions of the pandemic.       >The Telegraph has learnt that a meeting had been scheduled to take place       >on June16 2021 to discuss the matter. But the meeting was cancelled at       >the last minute by Department of Health officials – who cited       >“unexpected media coverage” – and was never rescheduled.       >Before it, a memo, seen by The Telegraph, had been circulated among       >members, warning of ethical and legal concerns around proceeding with a       >vaccine rollout for healthy children.       >The memo warned that “urgent” consideration must be given to the ethical       >and legal issues relating to rolling out a new vaccine for healthy       >children. It said vaccines were “invasive, irreversible and may have       >long-term side effects, as yet undefined”.       >ragout-top       >Vaccination of Children and Young People against SARS-COV-2: legal and       >ethical implications       >The vaccination of children and young people raises ethical and legal       >questions not met in adult vaccination. The extraordinary pace of the       >adult programme means that these issues now require urgent consideration.       >Vaccination saves lives but is invasive, irreversible and may have       >long-term side effects, as yet unidentified.       >The precautionary principle has been applied to date, with an existing       >recommendation that only children with severe neurodisabilities, where       >there is clear evidence that potential benefits outweigh potential       >risks, should be vaccinated below the age of 16 years.       >Mortality/morbidity in children and young people are very low in       >comparison to adults. The goals of mortality/morbidity reduction by       >individual vaccine protection are, consequently, less applicable.       >An ethical assessment of collective immunisation programmes would       >highlight safety and efficacy of both vaccine and programme,       >minimisation of burdens and benefits, a just distribution of burdens and       >benefits, voluntary valid consent where possible, and protection of       >public trust.       >The main questions are:-       >What are the goals of vaccinating children/ young people?       >What are the benefits and harms to individual children/ young people?       >Are there any practical alternatives to vaccinating this age group?       >Specific Issues       >Legal issues: Although not technically within the jurisdiction of MEAG       >or JCVI, these are worth noting as an indication of the degree to which       >ethical principles have been given institutional recognition. The       >relevant law in England and Wales is based on the Children Act 1989,       >which affirms a position adopted in previous statutes and judgements       >since the late 19th century, namely that the welfare of the child is       >paramount in all matters concerning children (s1, 1). The law in       >Scotland and Northern Ireland is similar. The UK has also ratified the       >UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which specifies the best       >interests of the child as the primary consideration. This has been       >incorporated into domestic law by the Welsh Government and the Scottish       >Government is proposing a similar move. The Children Act (s.1, 5) also       >establishes the principle of the ‘least restrictive alternative’, that       >an intervention should only take place if it is clearly better than no       >intervention.       >UK family law is very different from that in the US, where vaccines for       >children are being deployed. US family law is mostly at state rather       >than federal level but children generally tend to be viewed as akin to       >property that can be disposed of according to parental wishes. In the       >UK, parents are regarded as trustees, who are obliged to act in the best       >interests of their children, and may be overruled if they fail to do so.       >One consequence is that a child’s consent to vaccination cannot be       >assumed from parental consent. Vaccines are also being offered to       >children in France but the legal position in civil law countries would       >require further research. Germany is only offering vaccines to children       >with a narrow range of disabilities contributing to vulnerability, much       >as JCVI has previously recommended.       >Ethical Issues: There is a substantial literature within bioethics about       >vaccination in general and about children and medical interventions.       >Vaccination for children against SARS-COV-2 raises novel issues for the       >application of these principles, which should be specifically tested.       >These include, but are not restricted to:-              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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