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|    UFO Documentary 'Mirage Men' And The Gam    |
|    03 Apr 14 16:08:25    |
      From: rpattree2@gmail.com              Interview With Mark Pilkington On UFO Documentary 'Mirage Men' And The Games       Intel Agencies Play       by Matt Staggs on April 2, 2014 in News       Mirage_Men_posterMark Pilkington's 2010 book Mirage Men is one of the more       credible takes I've read on the topic of unidentified flying objects.       Pilkington alleges that many of the stories we've heard about alien visitors       and flying saucers are part of a        deliberate campaign of disinformation created by intelligence agencies to       cover up secret military technology and clandestine operations. These "mirage       men" have manipulated some UFO believers to the point of madness and beyond       through the use of        fabricated "evidence" and psychological warfare techniques, all in the name of       national security.              Pilkington, along with directors John Lundberg, Roland Denning, and Kypros       Kyprianou, just released a documentary based on the book. Also titled Mirage       Men, the film expands on the premise of the book and feature interviews with       some of the mirage men        and their victims. It's now available to rent online courtesy of Perception       Management Productions, Random Media, and Yekra.              RENT MIRAGE MEN HERE.              I just finished a short interview with Mark Pilkington about the film and why       viewers should believe anything a group of self-professed disinformation       artists and liars have to say.              The premise - as I understand it - behind Mirage Men is that the United States       and Soviet Union have used UFO believers and supposed contactees as a smoke       screen for real military experiments. Does this preclude the existence of       "real" UFOs or        extraterrestrials?                     PIC: Mark Pilkington. Photo by Etienne Gilfillan (C)       PIC: Mark Pilkington. Photo by Etienne Gilfillan (C)       There's no question that people do see UFOs - strange objects and lights in       the sky - and that some of them have anomalous experiences in connection with       these events, but I'm not persuaded that any of the evidence from the UFO lore       points to        extraterrestrial visitation. The Mirage Men hypothesis certainly doesn't       exclude ETs as a possibility, however I don't believe that any government is       hiding such knowledge from the rest of the world. Like many astronomers and       astrobiologists, I do think        that there is life elsewhere in the universe(s) and that some of it may be       technologically advanced. I subscribe to the late Christian De Duve's notion       that "life is a cosmic imperative". It will find a way, but is it visiting us       in interstellar craft? I        don't believe so, and I don't think the many and various UFO phenomena are the       right place to be looking for them. Might UFO phenomena represent an       intelligence of another kind, something stranger and more subtle? Certainly,       but that's another story...              I was wondering what kind of blowback (if any) you've faced from the UFO       community? People sometimes don't react well to the idea that they might have       been made fools of, especially when they're already suspicious of the       government.              Responses have been predictably mixed - I've spoken about Mirage Men at       numerous UFO meetings and conferences in the UK and I'd say the majority of       people have been fascinated and even relieved to be presented with this       perspective on the subject, which        while not new in itself (Leon Davidson was saying just such a thing in the       1950s), doesn't get discussed all too often. Naturally some people have been       upset, but the key thing for us with the film, and for me with the book, was       that the UFO community,        and their beliefs, which I think are no less plausible than most other       religious or spiritual systems, are treated with utmost understanding and       respect. After all, I myself was deeply immersed in the UFO culture for many       years, so I understand that        feeling of excitement and hope looking up at the stars - I still feel it to be       honest. I haven't discussed the material to UFO groups in the US however, and       this is something I'd love to do, and I'd be fascinated to hear how they       respond to the material.              Were you disappointed when what you learned led you to an Earthly origin for       supposed extraterrestrial activity? Had you hoped to find something else?              Perhaps! We all dream of stumbling upon the ultimate truth in a hangar       somewhere, or in an old photostat document, but I just don't think it's out       there. I do however hope that one day we'll find, or meet, the 'smoking gun'       (or 'smoking man'!) that        clarifies and exposes some of the Mirage Men's operations. It was routine for       CIA, NSA and other intel groups to destroy sensitive documentation after an       operation, and mountains of paperwork were destroyed before the Church       Commission got their hands on        it in the 1970s, so it's possible we may never even see documentary evdidence       of the Mirage Men's activities.The 1950 RAND document about the use of       superstitions in psychological warfare, and the recent Snowden-leaked       powerpoint 'The Art of Deception'        are pretty much as close as we have to that at the moment.              How did you get a guy like Richard Doty to come on camera?              We just asked! John and I actually never expected to interview Doty, so when       he agree to go on camera we couldn't believe our luck. We flew out to Nevada       in 2006 to meet him at the Laughlin UFO conference and spent a week with him       there, so he's now        really the central pivot of the film. We were disappointed that William Moore       wouldn't speak to us, which surprised us, but I'm sure he has his reasons.       Naturally we'd like to have spoken to some of Doty's superiors and colleagues,       and we did try to        contact them, but they weren't happy to hear from us. It was great to get       Walter Bosely on screen though, a fascinating guy.              I can anticipate that many UFO enthusiasts will want to know why they should       believe people who are admitted liars and disinformation artists. What would       you answer to that?                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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