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|    Black Florida Surgeon General Says Vacci    |
|    12 Apr 22 11:08:18    |
      XPost: alt.survival, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics       XPost: rec.arts.tv, alt.politics, alt.atheism       XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.abortion, alt.global-warming       XPost: alt.journalism.criticism, alt.news-media, alt.checkmate       From: liamhardshell@bikerider.com              >He's says vaccines are dangerous and ONLY COVID will kill more Trump       >supporters going forward.       >       >He's black!       >       >       >Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis’ controversial decision to appoint       >as his surgeon general a doctor who previously likened Covid-19       >vaccination efforts to a misguided “religion” is emerging as a       >potentially powerful weapon for his Covid denialism.       >       >Ladapo is strengthening DeSantis’ position by staking out positions even       >too extreme for DeSantis to take.       >       >DeSantis has tried to walk a careful line on the vaccine — acknowledging       >its safety, while also over-emphasizing monoclonal antibodies as an       >alternative and standing beside vaccine skeptics. But now the leading       >public health spokesperson in his government, Joseph Ladapo, is outright       >questioning vaccines and spreading disinformation about them.       >       >This makes Ladapo a precious political asset for DeSantis: Rather than       >using his medical expertise to act as a check on DeSantis’ recklessly lax       >Covid policies, Ladapo is strengthening DeSantis’ position by staking out       >positions even too extreme for DeSantis to take, while providing them       >with a veneer of scientific expertise.       >       >During a news conference Thursday, Ladapo made a number of shocking       >claims out of line with leading public health guidance and scientific       >claims about the vaccine. Standing with DeSantis by his side, he       >lambasted workplace mandates by openly questioning the idea that vaccines       >could be trusted and that the scientific community's claims about them       >were credible. Some of his remarks are worth quoting at length:       >       > I mean, you hear these stories, people telling you what’s been       >happening in their lives — nurses, pregnant women who are being forced to       >sort of put something in their bodies that we don’t know all there is to       >know about yet. No matter what people on TV tell you, it’s not true.       >We’re going to learn more about the safety of these vaccines, right?       >       > You remember when people were telling you that, you know, that these       >vaccines would stop transmission and the rates of protection were greater       >than 90 percent? Well, guess what? Here we are about 10 months afterward.       >And we’re finding that the data are showing that in some of these       >vaccines, the protection from infection is less than 40 percent. And even       >less than that, for some of them.       >       > So this idea that we are foolish for not believing people who are       >telling us things that we don’t have data for right now is ridiculous,       >and people need to continue and stick with their intuition and their       >sensibilities.       >       >There’s a lot to unpack about these irresponsible remarks. It’s true that       >of course we have not exhausted our knowledge of vaccine safety, much the       >way we haven’t exhausted our knowledge of the safety or health       >implications of nearly any food or medicine or any other kind of       >substance we put in our body.       >       >But that reality isn’t grounds for abject skepticism of Covid-19       >vaccines, which are being studied and improved upon by leading scientists       >around the world and are the subject of constant, rigorous scrutiny.       >Instead, we have to draw from that data and make cost-benefit       >calculations — not only about the vaccine itself, but about how risky the       >vaccine is versus the disease that it fights. By any reasonable measure,       >the vaccine is extraordinarily safe and much, much safer than contracting       >Covid.       >       >Ladapo cited neither a study nor a credible body of researchers who are       >worried about vaccine safety. Instead, he raised the idea of “stories”       >you hear, suggesting the public give extra weight to anecdotes and       >conspiracy theories while shunning authorities “on TV.”       >       >Instead of providing guidance on how people can keep up with the latest       >research or understand the debate about vaccines, Ladapo encouraged       >Floridians to exercise their “??intuition and their sensibilities.” This       >sort of talk is an affront to the very notion of being a public health       >official.       >       >Ladapo was also spreading disinformation in his statements implying that       >the medical establishment never believed that transmission after       >vaccination was possible. This is plainly untrue.       >       >       >It's unclear exactly what Ladapo's 40 percent figure is referring to, but       >it seems to be a criticism that some of the vaccines, most notably       >Johnson & Johnson's, have declined in efficacy over time. Not only was       >this expected, but it also doesn't constitute a counterargument to       >getting one.       >       >As Kavita Patel, a primary care physician and MSNBC contributor told me,       >even with declining efficacy against infection, the vaccines still       >provide people with memory cell immunity, which protects against severe       >cases of the disease and reduces likelihood of hospitalization and death.       >Florida’s new surgeon general ‘is a prop’ serving DeSantis’ interests       >doctor says       >Sept. 23, 202102:41       >       >Patel also emphasized that this is basic medical knowledge that Ladapo, a       >Harvard Medical School-trained doctor, certainly should know.       >       >Ladapo seems to be playing a role for DeSantis often reserved for a vice       >president or a deputy official: a pit bull who can go on attack and       >absorb criticism the top figurehead cannot risk taking. DeSantis surely       >hoped for this when he hired him, knowing Ladapo had made a splash with       >his zealous public skepticism of mask-wearing and vaccine efficacy.       >       >It raises questions of whether Ladapo is hoping to enter politics himself       >one day, or if he’s rehearsing for an even more prominent surgeon general       >position in the future. There’s also the possibility that, despite all       >his training, he’s a true believer in all the things he says. Perhaps       >that’s even more disconcerting.       >              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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