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      XPost: talk.politics.guns, comp.os.linux.advocacy       From: sambo@msn.com              Was Kerry's original discharge less than honorable?              In a front-page article in today's New York Sun entitled "Mystery       Surrounds Kerry's Navy Discharge," reporter Thomas Lipscomb asserts that       in all probability, Sen. John F. Kerry originally received a less-than-       honorable discharge from the United States Naval Reserve — a discharge       that was only upgraded to honorable after President Carter's 1977       executive order proclaiming a presidential amnesty for Vietnam War       resisters.              My purpose in this post is to provide links to and more extended quotes       from the documents that Mr. Lipscomb's article references for those who       are interested in assessing this assertion, and of course my own       admittedly tentative take on these issues. [Update: Be sure to read       through to my 5:25pm update below for a speculative, innocuous scenario       possibly involving section 1163(a) — Beldar.]              I. The Claytor document       Mr. Lipscomb's assertion begins with this document from John Kerry's       website, described there as Kerry's "Honorable Discharge From Reserve."       Dated February 16, 1978, and issued in the name of Carter administration       Secretary of the Navy W. Graham Claytor, it provides:              Subj: Honorable Discharge from the U.S. Naval Reserve       Ref: (a) Title 10, U.S. Code, Section 1162       (b) Title 10, U.S. Code, Section 1163       (c) BUPERSMAN 3830380        Encl: (1) Honorable Discharge Certificate              1. By direction of the President, and pursuant to reference (a), you are       hereby honorably discharged from the U.S. Naval Reserve effective this       date.              2. This action is taken in accordance with the approved recommendations       of a board of officers convened under authority of reference (b) to       examine the official records of officers of the Naval Reserve on inactive       duty and determine whether they should be retained on the records of the       Reserve Component or separated from the naval service pursuant to       Secretarial Instructions promulgated in reference (c).              3. The Navy Department at this time expresses its appreciation of your       past services and trusts that you will continue your interest in the naval       service.              There's another 1978 document on the Kerry website, labeled "Acceptance of       Discharge Naval Reserve," that as best I can tell simply reflects Sen.       Kerry's acceptance of the Claytor letter.              II. Former sections 1162 and 1163 of       Title 10 of the United States Code       As part of a reorganization of the relevant portions of Title 10, sections       1162 and 1163 were repealed effective December 1, 1994, and because their       text no longer appears in the current United States Code, they're somewhat       hard to locate. However, with some digging using Lexis/Nexis, one can       determine that as in effect from 1956 through 1994, 10 U.S.C. § 1162 read:              (a) Subject to the other provisions of this title, reserve commissioned       officers may be discharged at the pleasure of the President. Other       Reserves may be discharged under regulations prescribed by the Secretary       concerned.              (b) Under regulations to be prescribed by the Secretary of Defense, a       Reserve who becomes a regular or ordained minister of religion is entitled       upon his request to a discharge from his reserve enlistment or       appointment.              Since Kerry was not a regular or ordained minister, section 1162(b) can't       have applied. Rather, the first sentence of section 1162(a), pertaining       to "reserve commissioned officers," was what the first numbered paragraph       in the Claytor document must be referencing, and stands for nothing more       than the unremarkable proposition that the President has authority to       discharge reserve commissioned officers.              Where things get interesting, however, is the second numbered paragraph of       the Claytor document quoted above, and in particular its reference to the       "approved recommendations of a board of officers convened under authority       of [section 1163] to examine the official records of officers of the Naval       Reserve on inactive duty and determine whether they should be retained on       the records of the Reserve Component or separated from the naval service       ...." As in effect from 1956 through 1994, 10 U.S.C. § 1163 read:              (a) An officer of a reserve component who has at least three years of       service as a commissioned officer may not be separated from that component       without his consent except under an approved recommendation of a board of       officers convened by an authority designated by the Secretary concerned,       or by the approved sentence of a court-martial. This subsection does not       apply to a separation under subsection (b) of this section or under       section 1003 of this title, to a dismissal under section 1161 (a) of this       title, or to a transfer under section 3352 or 8352 of this title.              (b) The President or the Secretary concerned may drop from the rolls of       the armed force concerned any Reserve (1) who has been absent without       authority for at least three months, or (2) who is sentenced to       confinement in a Federal or State penitentiary or correctional institution       after having been found guilty of       an offense by a court other than a court-martial or other military court,       and whose sentence has become final.              (c) A member of a reserve component who is separated therefrom for cause,       except under subsection (b), is entitled to a discharge under honorable       conditions unless —              (1) he is discharged under conditions other than honorable under an       approved sentence of a court-martial or under the approved findings of a       board of officers convened by an authority designated by the Secretary       concerned; or              (2) he consents to a discharge under conditions other than honorable with       a waiver of proceedings of a court-martial or a board.              (d) Under regulations to be prescribed by the Secretary concerned, which       shall be as uniform as practicable, a member of a reserve component who is       on active duty (other than for training) and is within two years of       becoming eligible for retired pay or retainer pay under a purely military       retirement       system, may not be involuntarily released from that duty before he becomes       eligible for that pay, unless his release is approved by the Secretary.              Unfortunately, I've been unable to locate the text of the third reference       from the Claytor document, "BUPERSMAN 3830380," which I presume to have       been a Bureau of Personnel Manual regulation. [Update: see James       Lederer's and Cecil Turner's helpful comments and links below, which I've       edited this text to conform to — Beldar]              III. Mr. Lipscomb's arguments from the Claytor       document and sections 1162 and 1163       Here's Mr. Lipscomb's analysis of how the Claytor document and the two       relevant statutes lead to inferences about Sen. Kerry's original discharge       and possible later upgrade:              An official Navy document on Senator Kerry's campaign Web site listed as       Mr. Kerry's "Honorable Discharge from the Reserves" opens a door on a well       kept secret about his military service.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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