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   "We will bury you" -- Khrushchev   
   10 Jul 22 07:46:34   
   
   From: imbibe@mindspring.com   
      
   While addressing the Western Bloc at the embassy on Nov. 18, 1956, in the   
   presence of communist Polish statesman Władysław Gomułka, First Secretary   
   Khrushchev said: "About the capitalist states, it doesn't depend on you   
   whether or not we exist. If you    
   don't like us, don't accept our invitations, and don't invite us to come to   
   see you. Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury   
   you!" The speech prompted the envoys from 12 NATO nations and Israel to leave   
   the room.   
      
   During Khrushchev's visit to the US in 1959, L.A. mayor Norris Poulson in his   
   address to Khrushchev stated: "We do not agree with your widely quoted phrase   
   'We shall bury you.' You shall not bury us and we shall not bury you. We are   
   happy with our way of    
   life. We recognize its shortcomings and are always trying to improve it. But   
   if challenged, we shall fight to the death to preserve it". Many Americans   
   meanwhile interpreted Khrushchev's quote as a nuclear threat.   
      
   In another public speech Khrushchev declared: "We must take a shovel and dig a   
   deep grave, and bury colonialism as deep as we can". In a 1961 speech at the   
   Institute of Marxism–Leninism in Moscow, Khrushchev said that "peaceful   
   coexistence" for the    
   Soviet Union means "intense, economic, political and ideological struggle   
   between the proletariat and the aggressive forces of imperialism in the world   
   arena". Later, on Aug. 24, 1963, Khrushchev remarked in his speech in   
   Yugoslavia, "I once said, 'We    
   will bury you,' and I got into trouble with it. Of course we will not bury you   
   with a shovel. Your own working class will bury you," a reference to the   
   Marxist saying, "The proletariat is the undertaker of capitalism" (in the   
   Russian translation of Marx,    
   the word "undertaker" is translated as a "grave digger," Russian:   
   могильщик,) based on the concluding statement in Chapter 1 of the   
   Communist Manifesto: "What the bourgeoisie therefore produces, above all, are   
   its own grave-diggers. Its fall and    
   the victory of the proletariat are equally inevitable". In his memoirs,   
   Khrushchev stated that "enemy propaganda picked up the slogan and blew it all   
   out of proportion".   
      
   Some authors suggest that an alternative translation is "We shall be present   
   at your funeral" or "We shall outlive you". Authors have suggested the phrase,   
   in conjunction with Khrushchev's overhead hand clasp gesture meant that Russia   
   would take care of    
   the funeral arrangements for capitalism after its demise. In an article in The   
   NY Times in 2018, translator Mark Polizzotti suggested that the phrase was   
   mistranslated at the time and should properly have been translated as "We will   
   outlast you," which    
   gives a different sense to Khrushchev's statement.   
      
   Khrushchev was known for his emotional public image. His daughter admitted   
   that "he was known for strong language, interrupting speakers, banging his   
   fists on the table in protest, pounding his feet, even whistling". She called   
   such behavior a "manner,    
   which suited his goal... to be different from the hypocrites of the West, with   
   their appropriate words but calculated deeds". Mikhail Gorbachev suggested in   
   his book Perestroika and New Thinking for Our Country and the World that the   
   image used by    
   Khrushchev was inspired by the acute discussions among Soviet agrarian   
   scientists in the 1930s, nicknamed "who will bury whom", the bitterness of   
   which must be understood in the political context of the times.   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you   
      
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