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|    David P to All    |
|    "We will bury you" -- Khrushchev    |
|    10 Jul 22 07:46:34    |
      From: imbibe@mindspring.com              While addressing the Western Bloc at the embassy on Nov. 18, 1956, in the       presence of communist Polish statesman Władysław Gomułka, First Secretary       Khrushchev said: "About the capitalist states, it doesn't depend on you       whether or not we exist. If you        don't like us, don't accept our invitations, and don't invite us to come to       see you. Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury       you!" The speech prompted the envoys from 12 NATO nations and Israel to leave       the room.              During Khrushchev's visit to the US in 1959, L.A. mayor Norris Poulson in his       address to Khrushchev stated: "We do not agree with your widely quoted phrase       'We shall bury you.' You shall not bury us and we shall not bury you. We are       happy with our way of        life. We recognize its shortcomings and are always trying to improve it. But       if challenged, we shall fight to the death to preserve it". Many Americans       meanwhile interpreted Khrushchev's quote as a nuclear threat.              In another public speech Khrushchev declared: "We must take a shovel and dig a       deep grave, and bury colonialism as deep as we can". In a 1961 speech at the       Institute of Marxism–Leninism in Moscow, Khrushchev said that "peaceful       coexistence" for the        Soviet Union means "intense, economic, political and ideological struggle       between the proletariat and the aggressive forces of imperialism in the world       arena". Later, on Aug. 24, 1963, Khrushchev remarked in his speech in       Yugoslavia, "I once said, 'We        will bury you,' and I got into trouble with it. Of course we will not bury you       with a shovel. Your own working class will bury you," a reference to the       Marxist saying, "The proletariat is the undertaker of capitalism" (in the       Russian translation of Marx,        the word "undertaker" is translated as a "grave digger," Russian:       могильщик,) based on the concluding statement in Chapter 1 of the       Communist Manifesto: "What the bourgeoisie therefore produces, above all, are       its own grave-diggers. Its fall and        the victory of the proletariat are equally inevitable". In his memoirs,       Khrushchev stated that "enemy propaganda picked up the slogan and blew it all       out of proportion".              Some authors suggest that an alternative translation is "We shall be present       at your funeral" or "We shall outlive you". Authors have suggested the phrase,       in conjunction with Khrushchev's overhead hand clasp gesture meant that Russia       would take care of        the funeral arrangements for capitalism after its demise. In an article in The       NY Times in 2018, translator Mark Polizzotti suggested that the phrase was       mistranslated at the time and should properly have been translated as "We will       outlast you," which        gives a different sense to Khrushchev's statement.              Khrushchev was known for his emotional public image. His daughter admitted       that "he was known for strong language, interrupting speakers, banging his       fists on the table in protest, pounding his feet, even whistling". She called       such behavior a "manner,        which suited his goal... to be different from the hypocrites of the West, with       their appropriate words but calculated deeds". Mikhail Gorbachev suggested in       his book Perestroika and New Thinking for Our Country and the World that the       image used by        Khrushchev was inspired by the acute discussions among Soviet agrarian       scientists in the 1930s, nicknamed "who will bury whom", the bitterness of       which must be understood in the political context of the times.              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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