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|    Douglas Eagleson to Keith Willshaw    |
|    Re: Sounding Rockets for Ukraine    |
|    27 Oct 22 13:39:11    |
      From: eaglesondouglas@gmail.com              On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 2:02:30 AM UTC+8, Keith Willshaw wrote:       > On 24/10/2022 06:11, Douglas Eagleson wrote:       > > I remember the term, sounding, rocket. In the cold war days they may have       been used by both sides to test the early warning radar. They       > > were physically small.       > >       > > And they were mostly undetectable. Think of a two foot long re-entry cone.       > > This is extremely useful to test NORAD. The local police would say "what       the hell is that" when found by accident. They targeted the plains areas near       US operations, like out in the the plains region.       > >       > > I would just say "stay cool" if found in Ukraine.       > More Eagleson bollocks       >       >       > 1) In 1982 the standard test target for the Royal Navy was a 4.5" shell,       > the Class 22 Frigates tested their Sea Wolf Missiles by firing at then       > on the range, now if they can detect and hit on object that size the       > idea that they couldnt see a sounding rocket is absurd.       >       > 2) In WW2 British Radar systems could detect V2's being launched from France       >       > 3) Sounding rockets are typically used for atmospheric and meteorlogical       > research and are routinely tracked by Radar. The British SkylardkRockets       > are still in use launched from a site in the Shetland Islands       >       > You may have stumbled unknowingly on to a truth however, some more       > modern sounding rockets carry a GPS receiver and a transmitter to give       > dynamic positions without the need for a radar system. That way you can       > drive to an interesting location in the middle of nowhere and fire it       > from a mobile launcher.       Both sides I guess are preparing for a dirty bomb event.       Doing radiation measurements to find the epicenter       will be required.              Two methods are available. Maybe do both.              Method one: run around with a gps and radiation meter and radio relay the       results       the command. This method doesn't use onsite data to project the next survey       data point. So survey path is an after thought.              Method two: Get a topographic map and survey on well defined paths two       and from land markers such as road intersections, hill tops, dams, and       compass heading to and from these markers. A gps route can serve       to mark distance along path.              Either method can be used for a first survey recordation. In general       the goal is to use onsite data to define contours. Then plan routes       to point to the epicenter.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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