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   Subject: Marines told to stop using 'sir,' 'ma'am' to avoid 'misgendering'    
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   Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2023 09:06:07 -0000 (UTC)   
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   No more “Yes, sir!”   
      
   The US Marines may ban recruits from respectfully addressing senior   
   members as “sir” or “ma’am” to avoid “misgendering” and offending them.   
      
   The woke recommendation was made in a new $2 million report commissioned   
   by the Corps from the University of Pittsburgh.   
      
   The exhaustive, 738-page study that the Marines first commissioned in 2020   
   said traditional ways of addressing superiors were holding back gender   
   integration.   
      
   “Employing gender-neutral identifiers eliminates the possibility of   
   misgendering drill instructors, which can unintentionally offend or cause   
   discord,” the study said.   
      
   “By teaching recruits to use gender-neutral identifiers for their drill   
   instructors, Services underscore the importance of respecting   
   authoritative figures regardless of gender.”   
      
   The two-year study by the University of Pittsburgh’s Warrior Human   
   Performance Research Center also said that “the Army, Navy, and Coast   
   Guard effectively de-emphasize gender in an integrated environment.”   
      
   “Instead of saying ‘ma’am’ or ‘sir,’ recruits in these Services refer to   
   their drill instructors using their ranks or roles followed by their last   
   names,” it said.   
      
   “Gendered identifiers prime recruits to think about or visually search for   
   a drill instructor’s gender first, before their rank or role.”   
      
   Col. Howard Hall, chief of staff for Marine Corps Training and Education   
   Command, told the Defense Advisory Committee on Women in the Services this   
   month that the radical shift was being considered by leadership — albeit   
   with some pushback, the Marine Corps Times said.   
      
   The proposal is one of a half-dozen recommendations the Marines’ entry-   
   level training advisory council is considering, the report said. It’s not   
   clear when the service will decide which ones to pursue.   
      
   Hall warned the December meeting of the Defense Advisory Committee on   
   Women in the Services that it would not be “a quick fix.”   
      
   “That’s going to take some effort,” Hall told the committee of the switch   
   to gender-neutral identifiers, according to the military outlet.   
      
   “We want to avoid any quick-fix solutions that introduce perturbations   
   down the line.”   
      
   Hall later told the outlet that “it’s not something we would change   
   overnight.”   
      
   “We’ve got a history of ‘sir, ma’am, sir, ma’am.’ If we change something   
   at the root level, how do we make the corresponding change at the Fleet   
   Marine Force? So it’s not ours to implement alone,” he said.   
      
   News of the possible change was quickly ripped online as “making a joke of   
   our military,” with one commentator claiming: “Any real Marine would not   
   let this happen!”   
      
   “Just another reason why I got out of the Marine Corps,” one former member   
   wrote, saying: “We are WARFIGHTERS, not politicians.”   
      
   Podcaster Craig Chamberlain, meanwhile, quipped: “If captured by the   
   enemy, at least we know our troops will be prepared to use the right   
   pronouns.”   
      
   If captured by the enemy, at least we know our troops will be prepared to   
   use the right pronouns.   
      
   — Craig Chamberlin (@CraigChamberlin) December 21, 2022   
   Others, however, suggested it was not as big an overhaul as it first   
   appears.   
      
   “As a former Marine, it was always yes or no drill instructor. Ma’am or   
   Sir was only for addressing an officer,” one person wrote, with others   
   saying only recruits would ever use the terms.   
      
   The commissioned study highlighted a number of areas where the service   
   still comes across as being a male-dominated operation, including sexist   
   behavior and jokes and training material focusing on men, often using male   
   pronouns even for positions held by females.   
      
   Women became a permanent part of the regular Marine Corps in 1948, but   
   still only account for 4.3% of officers and 5.1% percent of those enlisted   
   for active duty, according to the Marine Corps University.   
      
   https://nypost.com/2022/12/22/marines-may-ban-sir-and-maam-to-avoid-   
   misgendering/   
      
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