XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, aus.politics   
   XPost: alt.survival   
   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 13:38:28 +1100, Leper  wrote:   
      
   > On 2/14/2023 10:55 AM, Rod Speed wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 22:29:43 +1100, Leper    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/13/2023 5:22 PM, Peter Jason wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:18:14 +1100, "Rod Speed"   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 06:59:52 +1100, Peter Jason    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 05:18:36 -0000 (UTC), J D Young   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia said on Monday it would accelerate   
   >>>>>>> plans to   
   >>>>>>> buy advanced sea mines to protect its maritime routes and ports   
   >>>>>>> from   
   >>>>>>> "potential aggressors" amid China's plans to increase its   
   >>>>>>> influence in   
   >>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>> Pacific region.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Laudable.  But will they also be placed along the length of   
   >>>>>> submarine   
   >>>>>> cables which could be cut by some enemy, in many locations, so   
   >>>>>> isolating Oz from the rest of the world?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Even if all the submarine cables were all cut in multiple places,   
   >>>>> we would not be isolated from the rest of the world due to   
   >>>>> satellites.   
   >>>>   That is true.  But the cost and queuing would slow things down to a   
   >>>> crawl.  Presumably use would be rationed to the benefit of we posters   
   >>>> in aus.politics.   
   >>   
   >>> But in times of a real war, would those Satellites survive the first   
   >>> few hours?   
   >>  Yep, there will never be a full nuclear holocaust and even   
   >> if there was, it would never be possible to take out all the   
   >> satellites anyway.   
   >>   
   >>> Possibly be the very first causalities. To prevent return missile   
   >>> targeting.   
   >>  Mindlessly pig ignorant. INS alone is all you need to nuke missiles.   
      
   > Not a lot of our birds are on INS.   
      
   BULLSHIT. They have that for when they lose communication   
   with the satellites, stupid. The accuracy need for a NUKE ICBM   
   is perfectly adequate with INS.   
      
   > We stopped designing those in the  70's or 80's   
      
   There have been sweet fuck all new nuke   
   icbms produced since then except by China.   
      
   > and have used less of the old designs for our systems.   
      
   Whose systems ?   
      
   > We still have Subs that have to set positions before firing.   
      
   But most don't.   
      
   > But not very many have to do that.   
      
   So the dregs like that are irrelevant.   
      
   > Most of the very best manufacturers(researchers) are long gone. i.e   
   > Autonetics INS, Hughs INS Division, Raytheon etc.   
      
   But the sub launched nukes haven't.   
      
   > I still have a tytac of the best one with all moving parts. A Nuclear   
   > screen in the early days was the tactical answer to both incoming ICBM's   
   > and blocking/destroying satellite targeting. I understand the planners   
   > are thinking the same tactics to stop Drone Swarms.   
      
   Irrelevant, those aren't nuke icbms.   
      
   > If and when the SHTF, you will find me in the back yard BBQing a brisket   
   > and imbibing of my favorite drink. I am sure the girls will be perusing   
   > their bibles. I am sure you are aware of the targeting system in the   
   > Minuteman system? We put that bird active in about 1962 and it has many   
   > upgrades since. But it is one of our reliable solid repellent go-to   
   > birds.   
      
   And INS is all it needs to put a nuke where   
   it matters if there is no alternative left.   
      
   > You did note that the balloon killers we sent out were heat seekers.   
   > Which means all of those bogies were producing heat in order to be hit.   
      
   Obviously the payload does that, that's why it has solar panels, stupid.   
      
   >>>>>>> China has plans to step up its presence in the Pacific and entered   
   >>>>>>> a   
   >>>>>>> security pact with Solomon Islands last year, raising concerns in   
   >>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>> United States and Australia, who for decades have seen the region   
   >>>>>>> as   
   >>>>>>> their   
   >>>>>>> sphere of influence.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Australia has been looking to boost its defence spending over the   
   >>>>>>> past   
   >>>>>>> few   
   >>>>>>> years, including entering into a deal in 2021 to buy nuclear   
   >>>>>>> submarines   
   >>>>>>> from the United States and Britain.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> ($1 = 1.4323 Australian dollars)   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> (Reporting by Renju Jose. Editing by Gerry Doyle)   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/australia-speed-purchase-sea-mine   
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