XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, aus.politics   
   XPost: alt.survival   
   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 10:51:40 +1100, Leper  wrote:   
      
   > On 2/14/2023 9:57 PM, Rod Speed wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 13:38:28 +1100, Leper    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/14/2023 10:55 AM, Rod Speed wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 22:29:43 +1100, Leper    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2/13/2023 5:22 PM, Peter Jason wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:18:14 +1100, "Rod Speed"   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 06:59:52 +1100, Peter Jason    
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 05:18:36 -0000 (UTC), J D Young   
   >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia said on Monday it would accelerate   
   >>>>>>>>> plans to   
   >>>>>>>>> buy advanced sea mines to protect its maritime routes and ports   
   >>>>>>>>> from   
   >>>>>>>>> "potential aggressors" amid China's plans to increase its   
   >>>>>>>>> influence in   
   >>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>> Pacific region.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Laudable.  But will they also be placed along the length of   
   >>>>>>>> submarine   
   >>>>>>>> cables which could be cut by some enemy, in many locations, so   
   >>>>>>>> isolating Oz from the rest of the world?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Even if all the submarine cables were all cut in multiple places,   
   >>>>>>> we would not be isolated from the rest of the world due to   
   >>>>>>> satellites.   
   >>>>>>   That is true.  But the cost and queuing would slow things down to   
   >>>>>> a   
   >>>>>> crawl.  Presumably use would be rationed to the benefit of we   
   >>>>>> posters   
   >>>>>> in aus.politics.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> But in times of a real war, would those Satellites survive the first   
   >>>>> few hours?   
   >>>>  Yep, there will never be a full nuclear holocaust and even   
   >>>> if there was, it would never be possible to take out all the   
   >>>> satellites anyway.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Possibly be the very first causalities. To prevent return missile   
   >>>>> targeting.   
   >>>>  Mindlessly pig ignorant. INS alone is all you need to nuke missiles.   
   >>   
   >>> Not a lot of our birds are on INS.   
   >>  BULLSHIT. They have that for when they lose communication   
   >> with the satellites, stupid. The accuracy need for a NUKE ICBM   
   >> is perfectly adequate with INS.   
   >>   
   >>> We stopped designing those in the  70's or 80's   
   >>  There have been sweet fuck all new nuke   
   >> icbms produced since then except by China.   
   >>   
   >>> and have used less of the old designs for our systems.   
   >>  Whose systems ?   
   >>   
   >>> We still have Subs that have to set positions before firing.   
   >>  But most don't.   
   >>   
   >>> But not very many have to do that.   
   >>  So the dregs like that are irrelevant.   
   >>   
   >>> Most of the very best manufacturers(researchers) are long gone. i.e   
   >>> Autonetics INS, Hughs INS Division, Raytheon etc.   
   >>  But the sub launched nukes haven't.   
   >>   
   >>> I still have a tytac of the best one with all moving parts. A Nuclear   
   >>> screen in the early days was the tactical answer to both incoming   
   >>> ICBM's and blocking/destroying satellite targeting. I understand the   
   >>> planners are thinking the same tactics to stop Drone Swarms.   
   >>  Irrelevant, those aren't nuke icbms.   
   >>   
   >>> If and when the SHTF, you will find me in the back yard BBQing a   
   >>> brisket and imbibing of my favorite drink. I am sure the girls will be   
   >>> perusing their bibles. I am sure you are aware of the targeting system   
   >>> in the Minuteman system? We put that bird active in about 1962 and it   
   >>> has many upgrades since. But it is one of our reliable solid repellent   
   >>> go-to birds.   
   >>  And INS is all it needs to put a nuke where   
   >> it matters if there is no alternative left.   
   >>   
   >>> You did note that the balloon killers we sent out were heat seekers.   
   >>> Which means all of those bogies were producing heat in order to be hit.   
   >>  Obviously the payload does that, that's why it has solar panels,   
   >> stupid.   
      
   > Your vast ignorance makes no sense at all. I do hope you won't hurt   
   > yourself doing simple things like breathing.   
      
   You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.   
      
   > The Nuclear shield is still on the table due to its EMP.   
      
   Irrelevant to what is being discussed, whether   
   nuke icbms and sub launched nukes will do   
   fine even with no communication with anything   
   is available when they are launched before   
   any incoming nuke has any chance to do EMP.   
      
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