XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, aus.politics   
   XPost: alt.survival   
   From: Leper@MalokaiColony.com   
      
   On 2/14/2023 9:57 PM, Rod Speed wrote:   
   > On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 13:38:28 +1100, Leper  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/14/2023 10:55 AM, Rod Speed wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 22:29:43 +1100, Leper    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2/13/2023 5:22 PM, Peter Jason wrote:   
   >>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:18:14 +1100, "Rod Speed"   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 06:59:52 +1100, Peter Jason    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 05:18:36 -0000 (UTC), J D Young   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia said on Monday it would accelerate   
   >>>>>>>> plans to   
   >>>>>>>> buy advanced sea mines to protect its maritime routes and ports   
   >>>>>>>> from   
   >>>>>>>> "potential aggressors" amid China's plans to increase its   
   >>>>>>>> influence in   
   >>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>> Pacific region.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Laudable.  But will they also be placed along the length of   
   >>>>>>> submarine   
   >>>>>>> cables which could be cut by some enemy, in many locations, so   
   >>>>>>> isolating Oz from the rest of the world?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Even if all the submarine cables were all cut in multiple places,   
   >>>>>> we would not be isolated from the rest of the world due to   
   >>>>>> satellites.   
   >>>>>   That is true.  But the cost and queuing would slow things down to a   
   >>>>> crawl.  Presumably use would be rationed to the benefit of we posters   
   >>>>> in aus.politics.   
   >>>   
   >>>> But in times of a real war, would those Satellites survive the first   
   >>>> few hours?   
   >>>  Yep, there will never be a full nuclear holocaust and even   
   >>> if there was, it would never be possible to take out all the   
   >>> satellites anyway.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Possibly be the very first causalities. To prevent return missile   
   >>>> targeting.   
   >>>  Mindlessly pig ignorant. INS alone is all you need to nuke missiles.   
   >   
   >> Not a lot of our birds are on INS.   
   >   
   > BULLSHIT. They have that for when they lose communication   
   > with the satellites, stupid. The accuracy need for a NUKE ICBM   
   > is perfectly adequate with INS.   
   >   
   >> We stopped designing those in the  70's or 80's   
   >   
   > There have been sweet fuck all new nuke   
   > icbms produced since then except by China.   
   >   
   >> and have used less of the old designs for our systems.   
   >   
   > Whose systems ?   
   >   
   >> We still have Subs that have to set positions before firing.   
   >   
   > But most don't.   
   >   
   >> But not very many have to do that.   
   >   
   > So the dregs like that are irrelevant.   
   >   
   >> Most of the very best manufacturers(researchers) are long gone. i.e   
   >> Autonetics INS, Hughs INS Division, Raytheon etc.   
   >   
   > But the sub launched nukes haven't.   
   >   
   >> I still have a tytac of the best one with all moving parts. A Nuclear   
   >> screen in the early days was the tactical answer to both incoming   
   >> ICBM's and blocking/destroying satellite targeting. I understand the   
   >> planners are thinking the same tactics to stop Drone Swarms.   
   >   
   > Irrelevant, those aren't nuke icbms.   
   >   
   >> If and when the SHTF, you will find me in the back yard BBQing a   
   >> brisket and imbibing of my favorite drink. I am sure the girls will be   
   >> perusing their bibles. I am sure you are aware of the targeting system   
   >> in the Minuteman system? We put that bird active in about 1962 and it   
   >> has many upgrades since. But it is one of our reliable solid repellent   
   >> go-to birds.   
   >   
   > And INS is all it needs to put a nuke where   
   > it matters if there is no alternative left.   
   >   
   >> You did note that the balloon killers we sent out were heat seekers.   
   >> Which means all of those bogies were producing heat in order to be hit.   
   >   
   > Obviously the payload does that, that's why it has solar panels, stupid.   
   >   
   >>>>>>>> China has plans to step up its presence in the Pacific and   
   >>>>>>>> entered a   
   >>>>>>>> security pact with Solomon Islands last year, raising concerns   
   >>>>>>>> in the   
   >>>>>>>> United States and Australia, who for decades have seen the   
   >>>>>>>> region as   
   >>>>>>>> their   
   >>>>>>>> sphere of influence.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Australia has been looking to boost its defence spending over   
   >>>>>>>> the past   
   >>>>>>>> few   
   >>>>>>>> years, including entering into a deal in 2021 to buy nuclear   
   >>>>>>>> submarines   
   >>>>>>>> from the United States and Britain.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> ($1 = 1.4323 Australian dollars)   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> (Reporting by Renju Jose. Editing by Gerry Doyle)   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/australia-speed-purchase-sea-min   
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