XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, aus.politics   
   XPost: alt.survival   
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   On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:24:10 +1100, Leper  wrote:   
      
   > On 2/14/2023 9:57 PM, Rod Speed wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 13:38:28 +1100, Leper    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/14/2023 10:55 AM, Rod Speed wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 22:29:43 +1100, Leper    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2/13/2023 5:22 PM, Peter Jason wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:18:14 +1100, "Rod Speed"   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 06:59:52 +1100, Peter Jason    
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 05:18:36 -0000 (UTC), J D Young   
   >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia said on Monday it would accelerate   
   >>>>>>>>> plans to   
   >>>>>>>>> buy advanced sea mines to protect its maritime routes and ports   
   >>>>>>>>> from   
   >>>>>>>>> "potential aggressors" amid China's plans to increase its   
   >>>>>>>>> influence in   
   >>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>> Pacific region.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Laudable.  But will they also be placed along the length of   
   >>>>>>>> submarine   
   >>>>>>>> cables which could be cut by some enemy, in many locations, so   
   >>>>>>>> isolating Oz from the rest of the world?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Even if all the submarine cables were all cut in multiple places,   
   >>>>>>> we would not be isolated from the rest of the world due to   
   >>>>>>> satellites.   
   >>>>>>   That is true.  But the cost and queuing would slow things down to   
   >>>>>> a   
   >>>>>> crawl.  Presumably use would be rationed to the benefit of we   
   >>>>>> posters   
   >>>>>> in aus.politics.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> But in times of a real war, would those Satellites survive the first   
   >>>>> few hours?   
   >>>>  Yep, there will never be a full nuclear holocaust and even   
   >>>> if there was, it would never be possible to take out all the   
   >>>> satellites anyway.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Possibly be the very first causalities. To prevent return missile   
   >>>>> targeting.   
   >>>>  Mindlessly pig ignorant. INS alone is all you need to nuke missiles.   
   >>   
   >>> Not a lot of our birds are on INS.   
   >>  BULLSHIT. They have that for when they lose communication   
   >> with the satellites, stupid. The accuracy need for a NUKE ICBM   
   >> is perfectly adequate with INS.   
   >>   
   >>> We stopped designing those in the  70's or 80's   
   >>  There have been sweet fuck all new nuke   
   >> icbms produced since then except by China.   
   >>   
   >>> and have used less of the old designs for our systems.   
   >>  Whose systems ?   
   >>   
   >>> We still have Subs that have to set positions before firing.   
   >>  But most don't.   
   >>   
   >>> But not very many have to do that.   
   >>  So the dregs like that are irrelevant.   
   >>   
   >>> Most of the very best manufacturers(researchers) are long gone. i.e   
   >>> Autonetics INS, Hughs INS Division, Raytheon etc.   
   >>  But the sub launched nukes haven't.   
   >>   
   >>> I still have a tytac of the best one with all moving parts. A Nuclear   
   >>> screen in the early days was the tactical answer to both incoming   
   >>> ICBM's and blocking/destroying satellite targeting. I understand the   
   >>> planners are thinking the same tactics to stop Drone Swarms.   
   >>  Irrelevant, those aren't nuke icbms.   
   >>   
   >>> If and when the SHTF, you will find me in the back yard BBQing a   
   >>> brisket and imbibing of my favorite drink. I am sure the girls will be   
   >>> perusing their bibles. I am sure you are aware of the targeting system   
   >>> in the Minuteman system? We put that bird active in about 1962 and it   
   >>> has many upgrades since. But it is one of our reliable solid repellent   
   >>> go-to birds.   
   >>  And INS is all it needs to put a nuke where   
   >> it matters if there is no alternative left.   
   >>   
   >>> You did note that the balloon killers we sent out were heat seekers.   
   >>> Which means all of those bogies were producing heat in order to be hit.   
   >>  Obviously the payload does that, that's why it has solar panels,   
   >> stupid.   
   >>   
   >>>>>>>>> China has plans to step up its presence in the Pacific and   
   >>>>>>>>> entered a   
   >>>>>>>>> security pact with Solomon Islands last year, raising concerns   
   >>>>>>>>> in the   
   >>>>>>>>> United States and Australia, who for decades have seen the   
   >>>>>>>>> region as   
   >>>>>>>>> their   
   >>>>>>>>> sphere of influence.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Australia has been looking to boost its defence spending over   
   >>>>>>>>> the past   
   >>>>>>>>> few   
   >>>>>>>>> years, including entering into a deal in 2021 to buy nuclear   
   >>>>>>>>> submarines   
   >>>>>>>>> from the United States and Britain.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ($1 = 1.4323 Australian dollars)   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> (Reporting by Renju Jose. Editing by Gerry Doyle)   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> https://news.yahoo.com/australia-speed-purchase-sea-mi   
   es-034254381.html   
   >   
   > Yawnnnn..... End of communications with you.   
      
   Wota stunning line in rational argument you have there, child.   
      
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