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|    Trump Volates Bail Conditions to All    |
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|    17 Aug 23 21:01:01    |
      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, rec.arts.tv, talk.politics.guns       XPost: or.politics, alt.atheism       From: nowomr@protonmail.com              Trump seems to have already broken the ‘most important’ condition of his       release       If our system of justice is to retain any legitimacy, Trump’s latest Truth       Social transgression simply cannot go unaddressed.       /       Aug. 16, 2023, 5:56 PM EDT       By Glenn Kirschner, MSNBC Columnist              Former President Donald Trump now stands criminally indicted in four       separate cases. Presently, he is on pretrial release in three of those       cases, but it’s more than likely that the judge in the fourth case also       decides to release him pending trial in Fulton County, Georgia. However,       given a recent post in which Trump declared that a witness “shouldn’t”       testify before Fani Willis’ grand jury there, the former president may be       at higher risk of a judge getting sick of his bad behavior.              I attended Trump’s arraignment hearing in early August in federal court in       Washington, D.C. And I heard Magistrate Judge Moxila A. Upadhyaya say       something that caught my attention.              In the federal system, there are a number of laws that guide judges in       deciding when they can and/or should detain a defendant pending trial. The       Federal Bail Reform Act of 1966 established a presumption in favor of       pretrial release. Congress further fine-tuned the law by amending the act       in 1984, requiring a judge to release a defendant pending trial unless the       judge concludes that detention is necessary to reasonably assure the       defendant will not flee and/or endanger others. When a judge decides to       release a defendant pending trial, they will set conditions of release       that, if violated, can result in sanctions, up to and including pretrial       detention.              I attended Trump’s arraignment hearing in early August in federal court in       Washington, D.C. And I heard Magistrate Judge Moxila A. Upadhyaya say       something that caught my attention. She told Trump that his “most       important condition” of release was not committing a state, federal or       local crime while on release. If Trump were to do so, she warned, a       warrant could be issued for his arrest and he could be detained pending       trial.              But on Monday, Trump posted something to social media that certainly could       be interpreted as violating that “most important” condition of release.       Just a few hours before the Georgia grand jury voted to indict him, the       now-defendant posted: “I am reading reports that failed former Lt.       Governor, Jeff Duncan, will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand       Jury. He shouldn’t.” (Trump, who misspelled Duncan's first name, Geoff,       went on to call Duncan “a nasty disaster.”)       'She knows who she is dealing with here': Judge sets limits for Trump;       violation seems inevitable       Aug. 11, 202306:41              Here we have Trump publicly telling a witness who he knew was scheduled to       testify before a grand jury investigating his alleged crimes, that the       witness should not testify. Cutting right to the chase, this is Trump       taking a page out of the “Witness Tampering for Dummies” playbook.              As is true in most jurisdictions, Georgia state law criminalizes attempts       to “influence witnesses.” Specifically, Georgia Code section 16-10-93       makes it unlawful to knowingly use intimidation or threats to persuade or       attempt to persuade another, to influence, delay or prevent the person’s       testimony in an official proceeding. (I’m focusing on Georgia law       specifically since Trump was threatening a witness testifying in that       state.)              This apparent violation of Georgia state law, which would constitute a       violation of Trump’s pretrial release conditions in his D.C. case, needs       to be addressed by Judge Tanya Chutkan, the presiding judge in the D.C.       proceeding.                            Here, it’s important to note that not all violations of release conditions       are created equal. When a judge is notified of a possible violation of a       condition of release, the federal law applies different burdens of proof       depending on the nature of the violation. Specifically, 18 U.S. Code,       section 3148, directs that, if a person violates a condition of pretrial       release in a federal case, the judge shall enter an order of revocation       and detention if the judge finds that there is probable cause to believe       that the person committed a federal, state or local crime while on       release. This relatively low evidentiary burden of proof stands in stark       contrast to the much higher burden of proof — clear and convincing       evidence — that applies when a defendant is alleged to have “violated any       other condition of release” short of a crime.       Expert says Judge Chutkan 'knows exactly what levers to pull' to hold       Trump's 'feet to the fire'       Aug. 14, 202308:32              To say that defendant Trump has received different and far more favorable       treatment in his criminal cases as compared to other defendants is an       understatement. He stands indicted in four separate felony cases, spread       across three jurisdictions, both state and federal. And yet, there has not       even been a hint of any consideration of pretrial detention for a man       criminally charged with unlawfully retaining classified documents,       obstructing justice, violating our nation’s espionage laws, and seeking to       thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power. And now, Trump adds to       an already distinguished criminal resume by allegedly attempting to       influence a witness, in apparent violation of both state law and the       conditions of his pretrial release.              It has often been said that witness tampering strikes at the very heart of       our criminal justice system. If our system of justice is to retain any       legitimacy, Trump’s latest transgression simply cannot go unaddressed.       This is only the beginning of a convoluted and lengthy process of justice       for Donald Trump. Those involved have a responsibility to apply the law       equally, without fear or favor. Otherwise, his brazen flouting of       conventions, not to mention laws, may only get worse. And that, in turn,       will make the path toward justice even murkier.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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