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   tesla sTinker to All   
   Re: [Lock Him Up Now!] Trump Seems To Ha   
   20 Aug 23 14:54:41   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, rec.arts.tv, talk.politics.guns   
   XPost: or.politics, alt.atheism   
   From: seaviews7@yahoo.com   
      
   none of the charges are legit, and it is because, they have not followed   
   the law in correct order.  But in fact have side stepped it, with   
   evidence that is not evidence, which makes him correct, it is   
   persecution from the other side.  Espcially since the doj was bribed by   
   the Bidens.  Same as American school systems have been bribed by him on   
   college tuitions.  Now we taxpayers pay for others in college schools as   
   well as the false covid.  and that, is a bunch of corrupt bs   
      
   On 8/17/2023 2:01 PM, Trump Volates Bail Conditions scribbled:   
   > Trump seems to have already broken the ‘most important’ condition of his   
   > release   
   > If our system of justice is to retain any legitimacy, Trump’s latest Truth   
   > Social transgression simply cannot go unaddressed.   
   > /   
   > Aug. 16, 2023, 5:56 PM EDT   
   > By Glenn Kirschner, MSNBC Columnist   
   >   
   > Former President Donald Trump now stands criminally indicted in four   
   > separate cases. Presently, he is on pretrial release in three of those   
   > cases, but it’s more than likely that the judge in the fourth case also   
   > decides to release him pending trial in Fulton County, Georgia. However,   
   > given a recent post in which Trump declared that a witness “shouldn’t”   
   > testify before Fani Willis’ grand jury there, the former president may be   
   > at higher risk of a judge getting sick of his bad behavior.   
   >   
   > I attended Trump’s arraignment hearing in early August in federal court in   
   > Washington, D.C. And I heard Magistrate Judge Moxila A. Upadhyaya say   
   > something that caught my attention.   
   >   
   > In the federal system, there are a number of laws that guide judges in   
   > deciding when they can and/or should detain a defendant pending trial. The   
   > Federal Bail Reform Act of 1966 established a presumption in favor of   
   > pretrial release. Congress further fine-tuned the law by amending the act   
   > in 1984, requiring a judge to release a defendant pending trial unless the   
   > judge concludes that detention is necessary to reasonably assure the   
   > defendant will not flee and/or endanger others. When a judge decides to   
   > release a defendant pending trial, they will set conditions of release   
   > that, if violated, can result in sanctions, up to and including pretrial   
   > detention.   
   >   
   > I attended Trump’s arraignment hearing in early August in federal court in   
   > Washington, D.C. And I heard Magistrate Judge Moxila A. Upadhyaya say   
   > something that caught my attention. She told Trump that his “most   
   > important condition” of release was not committing a state, federal or   
   > local crime while on release. If Trump were to do so, she warned, a   
   > warrant could be issued for his arrest and he could be detained pending   
   > trial.   
   >   
   > But on Monday, Trump posted something to social media that certainly could   
   > be interpreted as violating that “most important” condition of release.   
   > Just a few hours before the Georgia grand jury voted to indict him, the   
   > now-defendant posted: “I am reading reports that failed former Lt.   
   > Governor, Jeff Duncan, will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand   
   > Jury. He shouldn’t.” (Trump, who misspelled Duncan's first name, Geoff,   
   > went on to call  Duncan “a nasty disaster.”)   
   > 'She knows who she is dealing with here': Judge sets limits for Trump;   
   > violation seems inevitable   
   > Aug. 11, 202306:41   
   >   
   > Here we have Trump publicly telling a witness who he knew was scheduled to   
   > testify before a grand jury investigating his alleged crimes, that the   
   > witness should not testify. Cutting right to the chase, this is Trump   
   > taking a page out of the “Witness Tampering for Dummies” playbook.   
   >   
   > As is true in most jurisdictions, Georgia state law criminalizes attempts   
   > to “influence witnesses.” Specifically, Georgia Code section 16-10-93   
   > makes it unlawful to knowingly use intimidation or threats to persuade or   
   > attempt to persuade another, to influence, delay or prevent the person’s   
   > testimony in an official proceeding. (I’m focusing on Georgia law   
   > specifically since Trump was threatening a witness testifying in that   
   > state.)   
   >   
   > This apparent violation of Georgia state law, which would constitute a   
   > violation of Trump’s pretrial release conditions in his D.C. case, needs   
   > to be addressed by Judge Tanya Chutkan, the presiding judge in the D.C.   
   > proceeding.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > Here, it’s important to note that not all violations of release conditions   
   > are created equal. When a judge is notified of a possible violation of a   
   > condition of release, the federal law applies different burdens of proof   
   > depending on the nature of the violation. Specifically, 18 U.S. Code,   
   > section 3148, directs that, if a person violates a condition of pretrial   
   > release in a federal case, the judge shall enter an order of revocation   
   > and detention if the judge finds that there is probable cause to believe   
   > that the person committed a federal, state or local crime while on   
   > release. This relatively low evidentiary burden of proof stands in stark   
   > contrast to the much higher burden of proof — clear and convincing   
   > evidence — that applies when a defendant is alleged to have “violated any   
   > other condition of release” short of a crime.   
   > Expert says Judge Chutkan 'knows exactly what levers to pull' to hold   
   > Trump's 'feet to the fire'   
   > Aug. 14, 202308:32   
   >   
   > To say that defendant Trump has received different and far more favorable   
   > treatment in his criminal cases as compared to other defendants is an   
   > understatement. He stands indicted in four separate felony cases, spread   
   > across three jurisdictions, both state and federal. And yet, there has not   
   > even been a hint of any consideration of pretrial detention for a man   
   > criminally charged with unlawfully retaining classified documents,   
   > obstructing justice, violating our nation’s espionage laws, and seeking to   
   > thwart the peaceful transfer of presidential power. And now, Trump adds to   
   > an already distinguished criminal resume by allegedly attempting to   
   > influence a witness, in apparent violation of both state law and the   
   > conditions of his pretrial release.   
   >   
   > It has often been said that witness tampering strikes at the very heart of   
   > our criminal justice system. If our system of justice is to retain any   
   > legitimacy, Trump’s latest transgression simply cannot go unaddressed.   
   > This is only the beginning of a convoluted and lengthy process of justice   
   > for Donald Trump. Those involved have a responsibility to apply the law   
      
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