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|    [GUILTY] Trump Captured On Tape Talking     |
|    22 Aug 23 02:35:21    |
      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns       XPost: or.politics, alt.atheism       From: nowomr@protonmail.com              Trump Captured On Tape Talking About Classified Document He Kept After       Leaving The White House                            Federal prosecutors have obtained an audio recording of a summer 2021       meeting in which former President Donald Trump acknowledges he held onto a       classified Pentagon document about a potential attack on Iran, multiple       sources told CNN, undercutting his argument that he declassified       everything.              The recording indicates Trump understood he retained classified material       after leaving the White House, according to multiple sources familiar with       the investigation. On the recording, Trump’s comments suggest he would       like to share the information but he’s aware of limitations on his ability       post-presidency to declassify records, two of the sources said.              CNN has not listened to the recording, but multiple sources described it.       One source said the relevant portion on the Iran document is about two       minutes long, and another source said the discussion is a small part of a       much longer meeting.               Special counsel Jack Smith, who is leading the Justice Department       investigation into Trump, has focused on the meeting as part of the       criminal investigation into Trump’s handling of national security secrets.       Sources describe the recording as an “important” piece of evidence in a       possible case against Trump, who has repeatedly asserted he could retain       presidential records and “automatically” declassify documents.              Prosecutors have asked witnesses about the recording and the document       before a federal grand jury. The episode has generated enough interest for       investigators to have questioned Gen. Mark Milley, one of the highest-       ranking Trump-era national security officials, about the incident.              The July 2021 meeting was held at Trump’s golf club in Bedminster, New       Jersey, with two people working on the autobiography of Trump’s former       chief of staff Mark Meadows as well as aides employed by the former       president, including communications specialist Margo Martin. The       attendees, sources said, did not have security clearances that would allow       them access to classified information. Meadows didn’t attend the meeting,       sources said.              Meadows’ autobiography includes an account of what appears to be the same       meeting, during which Trump “recalls a four-page report typed up by       (Trump’s former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) Mark Milley       himself. It contained the general’s own plan to attack Iran, deploying       massive numbers of troops, something he urged President Trump to do more       than once during his presidency.”              The document Trump references was not produced by Milley, CNN was told.              Investigators have questioned Milley about the episode in recent months,       making him one of the highest-ranking national security officials from       Trump’s administration to meet with the special counsel’s team. Milley’s       spokesman Dave Butler declined to comment to CNN.               The revelation that the former president and commander-in-chief has been       captured on tape discussing a classified document could raise his legal       exposure as he continues his third bid for the White House.              Trump has denied any wrongdoing. CNN has reached out to a lawyer and       spokesman for the former president.              When asked at a CNN town hall this month if he showed classified documents       he kept after the presidency to anyone, Trump answered: “Not really. I       would have the right to. By the way, they were declassified after.”              A lawyer for Meadows declined to comment. A lawyer for Martin declined to       comment.              Smith’s investigation has shown signs of nearing its end, though it hasn’t       yet resulted in any criminal charges. A spokesman for the special       counsel’s office declined to comment for this story.               Trump was outraged at New Yorker story on Milley and Iran              The recording that’s now in the hands of prosecutors shows they are not       only looking at Trump’s actions regarding classified documents recovered       from his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, but also at what happened at       Bedminster a year earlier.              The meeting in which Trump discussed the Iran document with others       happened shortly after The New Yorker published a story by Susan Glasser       detailing how, in the final days of Trump’s presidency, Milley instructed       the Joint Chiefs to ensure Trump issued no illegal orders and that he be       informed if there was any concern. The story infuriated Trump.                      Glasser reported that in the months following the election, Milley       repeatedly argued against striking Iran and was concerned Trump “might set       in motion a full-scale conflict that was not justified.” Milley and others       talked Trump out of taking such a drastic action, according to the New       Yorker story.              On the recording and in response to the story, Trump brings up the       document, which he says came from Milley. Trump told those in the room       that if he could show it to people, it would undermine what Milley was       saying, the sources said. One source says Trump refers to the document as       if it is in front of him.              Several sources say the recording captures the sound of paper rustling, as       if Trump was waving the document around, though is not clear if it was the       actual Iran document. There’s also laughter in the room that’s captured on       the recording.                      The meeting took place well before Trump’s team shipped 15 boxes of       presidential records and classified documents back to the National       Archives and Records Administration in January 2022 after months of back-       and-forth between his team and the records agency.              The Justice Department later obtained additional documents with classified       markings from Trump, seizing more than 100 during a search of Mar-a-Lago       last August. Trump’s legal team hired people to search other Trump       properties, including Bedminster, late last year.              Investigators from the special counsel’s office also have asked in their       document handling and obstruction investigation about other scenarios in       which Trump may have shown national security documents, such as maps, to       others, sources say. They’ve also asked several witnesses to share details       about Trump’s anger toward Milley.              During the summer of 2021, sources say multiple people were making       recordings of Trump as he held conversations with journalists and       biographers.                      Trump’s different explanations on the declassified documents              Trump and his attorneys have given several different, often conflicting,       explanations for why Trump didn’t intentionally retain classified       materials in violation of federal law.               Initially, Trump allies argued he had a “standing declassification order”       so that documents removed from the Oval Office were immediately              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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