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      XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns       XPost: sac.politics       From: democrat@liars.org              Elena Zurheide was relaxing at her home in Camp Pendleton, Calif., due to       deliver her first child. It was April 12, 2004. On the other side of the       world, her husband, Rob, lay dying.              A U.S. Marine mortar had sailed through the sky and dropped nearly on top       of him, inside a dusty courtyard of a school in Fallujah, Iraq, where he       and other members of his Marine unit were hunkered down, fighting       insurgents.              But when a Marine officer came and knocked on Elena's door, he didn't say       her husband and two others had been killed that day by a horrible mistake.       He told her Rob was killed by enemy fire.              The Marines finally acknowledged it was friendly fire three years later,       under pressure from Congress, but Elena still has questions.              "All of this is a big fat lie," she says. "Why did they keep it secret to       begin with?"              Earlier this year, NPR's podcast Taking Cover tried to get to the truth.       It revealed that the son of a prominent politician was involved in the       mistake - and the whole thing had been covered up.              Now, Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., a member of the Senate Armed Services       Committee, is asking the Marine Corps for answers.              "Robert Zurheide's widow, Elena, is one of my constituents," Kelly told       NPR, sitting at his office on Capitol Hill. "His son, Robert, who wasn't       even born when he was killed is there in Tucson with his mom."              "They deserve answers. It's important that they get them," Kelly said.       "Not only them, but the folks who were wounded. Why were they not       informed? You know, why did that take this long? They should be informed       immediately. The Marine Corps has regulations, and they need to follow       them."              Kelly is himself a combat veteran, who flew A-6 fighter jets during the       first Gulf War, and later became an astronaut. He sits behind a desk that       used to belong to another Navy pilot, John McCain, and said he knows the       importance of keeping faith with military families.              Kelly said he met recently with the number two Marine officer, Gen.       Christopher Mahoney, and asked him about the friendly fire that killed Rob       Zurheide, Brad Shuder, and an Iraqi interpreter. Nearly a dozen others       were wounded, some serious enough to receive a medical retirement.              "(Mahoney) was familiar with it. And he told us he's going to get us some       answers," Kelly said. "And I trust he's going to do that."              When NPR went to the Marines for answers, at first they couldn't find any       documentation of the friendly fire, so NPR sued in federal court to get a       copy of the investigation. The Marines also gave conflicting stories about       how the friendly fire happened. And even once the details came out in       Taking Cover, they failed to follow their own regulations and reach out to       the wounded veterans.              One of the men still waiting is John Smith, a Marine corporal who lost a       leg and the use of an eye in the blast. These days he's working on a       master's degree in mental health counseling, and is a hip hop artist on       the side. He moves slowly, with a stiff gait.              He said the explosion comes to mind each time he straps on his prosthetic       leg.              "For about ten, fifteen minutes in the morning, I'm back in 2004 because I       have to put myself back together every time," Smith said. "So it's like I       don't get to move all the way forward. But I mean after I put myself       together, my daughter runs down, and I'm like, 'Hey, I'm here now."              By Pentagon regulations, someone from the Marines should have met with       Smith, explained the circumstances of the incident that injured him and       given him a copy of the investigation some 20 years ago. Instead, he       learned it was friendly fire from NPR three years ago.              Smith is still angry at the Marine leadership for failing to tell him the       truth.              "The only word I can say is disgusting," he said. "Like, you espouse the       words, honor, courage, commitment and you want us to follow them, and we       give our life to follow them. But when the ball falls on you, it's all of       a sudden not important."              As revealed in Taking Cover, one of the Marines involved in the deadly       mistake — the officer who plotted the mortar mission — was 1st Lt. Duncan       D. Hunter, son of Duncan L. Hunter, then a California congressman and the       powerful chairman of the House Armed Services Committee.              The younger Hunter declined to talk about his actions that day, when NPR       spoke with him earlier this year. His father, who visited the Marine base       in Fallujah a few weeks after the blast while it was still being       investigated, told us in a long interview he had never heard of the       friendly fire.              Some of the senior Marine officers who were in Fallujah when the blast       occurred declined to talk, including those who would later become       household names: James Mattis, who served as defense secretary under       President Trump, and John Kelly, who was Trump's chief of staff.              But many lower-level Marines and soldiers sat down with NPR. Among them       was Joe Colabuno, one of two Army soldiers wounded in the school       courtyard.              On the National Mall last summer, sitting on a bench and almost drowned       out by the buzzing of cicadas, he recalled seeing the mortar round fall       while he and his friend were having a smoke in that school courtyard. Not       far away was his Iraqi interpreter, Shihab.              Shihab had taken the job to help support his sisters and brothers, his       family members later said. NPR is not using Shihab's full name because his       family still lives in Baghdad, and members fear they could be under threat       from people who still resent the Americans.              "I got blasted against, there was a little wall you know," Colabuno       remembered.              Colabuno also recalled Shihab, standing relaxed, looking up through the       opening of the schoolhouse courtyard right before the blast.              "Shihab was just ... staring up at the stars," he said, his voice       breaking.              Colabuno and his friend John Nelson were both badly wounded. They're still       on active duty and each reached the rank of Sergeant Major. The Marines       never told them the truth about their wounds, and about the death of their       friend, Shihab.              Colabuno said he always assumed the explosion that day in April 2004 was       caused by the enemy, until NPR told him what really happened. He's never       talked much about that day.              "I don't carry it like a weight. I carry it sometimes I guess, but I       mean..." he said, his voice trailing off. "I mean war sucks, war is hell       right? I mean, we know that. But why (be) so stupid to... why would you       cover it up?"              Colabuno points off in the distance to the U.S. Capitol building, where       Congress meets.              "The further we get away from war, the less they understand the cost of       war going forward," he said. "I mean, it needs to be an incredible tax on       the nation to go to war. Because we need to think real f***ing hard before       we do that."              Marines who were in Fallujah the day of the attack, who still bear the              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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