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      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, rec.arts.tv, talk.politics.misc       XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism       From: elonx@protonmail.com               Trump’s America Becomes One of Those ‘Shithole Countries’              Republicans made their bargain with the president and the cost is coming       due. A large group of pro-Trump protesters overtake police and barriers in       order to access the Capitol Building on Jan. 6, 2021 in Washington, D.C.              A large group of pro-Trump protesters overtake police and barriers in       order to access the Capitol Building on Jan. 6, 2021 in Washington, D.C. |       Jon Cherry/Getty Images              By John F. Harris              01/06/2021 09:35 PM EST              Altitude is a column by POLITICO founding editor John Harris, offering       weekly perspective on politics in a moment of radical disruption.              The capital was consumed by talk of “insurrection,” a tense standoff with       police guns drawn at the doors of the national legislature, a fatality, a       curfew enforced by soldiers in the streets. What country are we talking       about?              This one, of course, and if it had happened elsewhere it might well have       merited citation from President Donald Trump himself the next time he       updates his notorious almanac of “shithole countries.”              But it didn’t happen elsewhere. It happened in the world’s oldest       democracy, and in that sense was powerfully illuminating of what happens       when one takes Trump Era politics to its logical destination.              The evacuation of the Senate chamber when the Capitol’s security was       breached was hectic, but not so much that Sen. Mitt Romney didn’t have       time for commentary for his fellow Republicans who had joined Trump in       challenging his loss to President-elect Joe Biden with bogus assertions of       pervasive fraud: “This is what you’ve gotten guys,” Romney scolded. Later,       he told The New York Times, “This is what the president caused today, this       insurrection.”              The day, just two weeks before the transfer of power on Jan. 20, was       historic in multiple ways. But one milestone was especially noteworthy: It       turns out even Trump can find himself rudely splattered by the muck of       Trumpism.              Even he can be burned by the essential bargain of the Republican Party in       the Trump Era: Just play along with the spectacle, and enjoy the material       and psychic rewards of power.              “This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these       people,” Trump pleaded in a video released as the Capitol was under siege       by Trump-backing insurrectionists trying to halt the attempted       certification of the presidential election. “So go home. We love you.       You’re very special.”              It was as if Trump himself was taken aback by the revelation that at least       some his backers don’t realize his presidency is the political equivalent       of pro wrestling — lots of puffing and bluster and body slams designed as       entertainment. It’s like those guys took him seriously a few hours earlier       at a “Stop the Steal” rally to repeat his claims that “our election       victory” was “stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats” and the news       media, and taunting everyone in his own party from his vice president on       down who does not agree with him.              It came on the day when Republicans, who lost the House in 2018 in large       part because of Trump’s polarizing presidency, also lost the Senate when       two Republicans were evicted from their seats in Georgia, in a special       election shadowed by Trump’s spurious claims of election fraud. In       combination with the mayhem at the Capitol, it underlined the       transactionalism at the heart of the Trump years. Lots of people have made       bargains, and the light is better than ever to assess how these have paid       off.              At the individual level this bargain — I don’t much like what Trump does       or says, but I’ve got good reasons for setting misgivings aside — was what       a long parade of people did in going to work as one of his chiefs of staff       or national security advisers or cabinet secretaries. It is hard to name       any who emerged from the bargain unscathed, with neither public reputation       nor personal dignity undiminished.              At the national level, that is what the Republican Party did once most of       its members accurately perceived the question of the age is “What side are       you on?” and concluded that the only safe place for someone with ambition       is, “On the side of Trump.”              Trump famously boasted that his supporters would still back him if he shot       someone on Fifth Avenue. What happened Wednesday was something different —       a damaging wound to him or those sympathetic to his cause delivered in the       name of supporting him.              In that sense, it highlighted the broader predicament of the Republican       Party. The GOP is a coalition of people who like Trump, people who don’t       like Trump but pretend to for expedient reasons, with a small sliver of       people who don’t like him and don’t pretend to and whom are left to wonder       about their own future in the party.              Even before the violence, it was a day when Republican leaders faced       recriminations about how the strategy of Trump accommodation paid off. In       his reelection bid, Trump proved himself to be the greatest mobilizer of       Republican turnout ever, winning the second-highest number of votes in       American history. He also turned out to be greatest mobilizer of       Democratic turnout ever, helping President-elect Joe Biden win the       first-highest number of votes in American history.              Until this week, one could have made the case that Senate Majority Leader       Mitch McConnell was a nearly singular figure: Someone who came out ahead       in the bargain to work with Trump and muzzle any negative sentiments he       might have harbored about the president’s behavior. After all, McConnell       got what he wanted most: four years of conservative judges. After the       November elections, it looked like McConnell might keep his power as       majority leader and even could lay down terms to a Democratic president       whom he’s known longer and probably likes more than Trump.              McConnell is soon to be minority leader. His speech deploring the attempt       at challenging the certification of Biden’s victory — “Our democracy would       enter a death spiral” if the attempt was successful — might have been the       day’s big news were it not for the confrontation.              How does McConnell view his bargain now?              Or how about Vice President Mike Pence? Four years in which he surrendered       independent identity to show obsequiousness to Trump in public, and       evidently also in private, were repaid with a Trump tweet on Wednesday       saying, “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been       done to protect our Country and our Constitution” by trying to block       certification of Biden’s election. Is Pence still supposing that he will       be the natural inheritor of the Trump movement in 2024? 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