XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.politics.trump, soc.culture.usa
XPost: alt.survival
From: Vine@Letuci.org
On 1/13/2024 8:39 PM, Baxter wrote:
> "Rod Speed" wrote in news:op.2hh0f2etbyq249
> @pvr2.lan:
>
>> Baxter wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Baxter wrote
>>
>>>>> there IS the power of Revolution.
>>
>>>> Doesnt have to be a revolution, the states are
>>>> free to do that peacefully if they choose to.
>>
>>> So?
>>
>> So you are mindlessly rabbiting on about an irrelevancy, as always.
>>
>>>>> It's called the Revolutionary War - not BritishCivil War, or War
> of
>>>>> Secession - REVOLUTIONARY War.
>>
>>>> Doesnt have to be a war. There have been plenty
>>>> of secessions which have not involved a war,
>>>> most obviously most recently with Czechoslovakia
>>>> and when Singapore chose to leave Malaysia.
>>
>>>>> Revolution is not secession.
>>
>>>> Secession doesnt have to be by revolution.
>>
>>> You can't secede if you're not part of the nation/government.
>>
>> Wrong, as always.
>>
>>> The Colonies were not part of the British government
>>
>> Didnt need to be.
>>
>>> - they had no representation. England chose warwhen the Colonies
>>> announced their independance.
>>
>> And Abe chose war when the southern states chose to secede.
No! His business associates did. The South fired the first shots to
cleanse Fort Sumter of the Norths influence.
>>
>> No news.
>>
>
> Fucking Lost Cause twaddle. The South promoted the bullshit Right to
> Secede in hopes of getting other nations to recognize them as an
> independent nation - didn't work -- NOBODY recognized the Confederacy as
> an independant nation.
France did, also some others also. Without English Warships blockading
there would have been more French wt material at the Souths disposal.
>
> It was entirely different when the US declared our independence
Baloney! England had plans to control America through financial
enterprise and heavy political Ambassador teams.
- and
> even Great Britain recognized us as an independent nation.
Is that why, Lincoln mandated a draft that created massive violent
demonstrations against being sent off to fight a war against the rights
of secession by the Southern states Which by the way is still not
Constitutional. At this point in History, Texas is doing the job that
pour Federal Government was legally and morally bound to do. The top 2
reasons for secession was (1) Northern Business Moguls wanted control of
the Cotton and other rich Industries in the South. (2) to Neuter the
upcoming enforcement of the Virginia Compromise- Ending Slavery-. If
the South had just handed over the reins of business to the North,
Lincoln who was a Jackal with the heavy financial support of Northern
Business would not have issued the "Emancipation Proclamation". Northern
Business would have happily continued with cheap and profitable slavery.
slavery. Lincoln was a wealthy man by doing the bidding of the Rich.
My forbears fought for the North as they were professional Military and
had no choice. I suggest that the pack of Morons(you-uns) educate
yourselves before showing your ignorance here. By the way, no Southern
state voted for Lincoln. Thus he was not a representative of the
Southern establishment. Texas entere3d the Union with very explicit
rules of Secession should the rest of the country offend them. And yes,
it is legal. Even President Lyndon Baines Johnson attested to this on
several occasions. The old crook did have some good in him.
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