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   D. Ray to 186282@ud0s4.net   
   Re: US Navy warship production hits 25-y   
   17 Sep 24 06:51:40   
   
   XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.eu, alt.elections   
   From: d@ray   
      
   186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:   
   > On 8/26/24 9:14 AM, Juergen Nieveler wrote:   
   >> Governor Swill  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> The Navy has settled on Frigates and Destroyers instead of heavier   
   >>> ships   
   >>   
   >> Mind you, what passes for a destroyer today would have been called a   
   >> cruiser as late as the 1960s... and as for frigates, they've grown so   
   >> large, the upcoming German F-127 is supposed to be 160m long and with   
   >> 10000 tons displacement.   
   >   
   >   
   >  Big fat high-value TARGETS   
   >   
   >  The "hornet's nest" model IS better for this century.   
   >  Lots of small, many semi/fully-autonomous, ships carrying   
   >  nothing but drones and missiles.   
      
   Who’s going to build it? Boeing? I mean, they can’t build planes anymore,   
   so why not ships?   
      
   >  'Leaders' and military like "big" - makes them feel   
   >  all manly and such. But it's the WRONG approach given   
   >  the emerging technology. We don't build battleships   
   >  anymore for GOOD REASONS. This will soon extend to   
   >  aircraft carriers and other huge ships.   
   >   
   >  And if not ... we LOSE.   
      
   You already lost.   
      
      
      
   >  So, who to elect ... who will have the BALLS and   
   >  insight to force the needed changes ?   
      
   No one. There’s no one in American politics who is willing to say “no” to   
   Wall Street and actually start making necessary changes. Trump won’t do it,   
   either. He’ll do the same shit he did last time.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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