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   a425couple to All   
   Where is Hamas getting the rockets it fi   
   24 Sep 24 12:30:27   
   
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   From: a425couple@hotmail.com   
      
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   Sankt Panzerfaust (aka Panzer Knight)   
   Has common sense!Sep 4   
   Where is Hamas getting the rockets it fires into Israel?   
    From the UN of course.   
      
   Other Palestinian Groups get their rockets from the UN too.   
      
   As a rule, the Islamist terror group Palestinian Islamic Jihad fires   
   most rockets, over a third, Hamas under a quarter, another 10% are fired   
   by Fatah (aka “The Palestinian Authority”) and the rest by smaller or   
   unknown actors.   
      
   The Qassam rockets were introduced in 2006 a year after Israel had   
   completely withdrawn and de-occupied the Gaza Strip. The rockets are   
   quite primitive, the UN provides most of the critical materials, Hamas   
   and co just assemble the parts and materials provided for free by the UN.   
      
   The bodies of the Qassam rockets are steel water pipes, supplied by the   
   UN and it’s donors.   
      
   The launchers simple welded steel frames made from common steel profiles   
   intended for buildings, supplied by the UN and it’s donors.   
      
   The propellant of the rockets is a solid mixture of sugar and fertiliser   
   (potassium nitrate), both of which are supplied by the UN and it’s donors.   
      
   The warhead is often filled with another fertiliser, urea nitrate, also   
   supplied by the UN and it’s donors. At other times ammonium nitrate   
   fertliser mixed TNT smuggled in via Egypt is use. The TNT is purchased   
   using money donated by the UN and other Donors.   
      
   The rocket consists of a steel cylinder, containing a rectangular block   
   of the propellant. A steel plate which forms and supports the nozzles is   
   then spot-welded to the base of the cylinder. The warhead consists of a   
   simple metal shell surrounding the explosives, and is triggered by a   
   fuse constructed using a simple firearm cartridge, spring and a nail.   
   The nail is probably also UN supplied.   
      
   The cost of the materials used for manufacturing each Qassam is up to   
   $1,000 per rocket, but most of the materials are actually supplied by   
   the UN free of charge. So to launch 10,000 rockets at Israel takes   
   around 10 million USD, but most of this in the form of free aid from the   
   UN. Given that UN has a billion dollar budget being spent on Gaza   
   annually, the cost of the rockets is a bagatelle.   
      
   Now, does the UN knowingly and willingly supply Hamas with the materials   
   to build it’s rockets?   
      
   Given what is known about the construction and materials used in these   
   Rockets, the UN should be aware that supplying steel piping, steel   
   profiles, fertiliser and sugar to Gaza will lead to rockets being made   
   and that these rockets will be launched at Israel.   
      
   It is impossible for the UN to not be aware of these facts.   
      
   Human Rights Watch has called the use of Qassam rockets by Hamas against   
   civilians and civilian targets illegal under international law.   
      
   Or more clearly a WAR CRIME.   
      
   In a 2005 statement, Human Rights Watch said that "such weapons are   
   therefore indiscriminate when used against targets in population   
   centers. The absence of Israeli military forces in the areas where   
   rockets have hit, as well as statements by leaders of Palestinian armed   
   groups that population centres were being targeted, indicate that the   
   armed groups deliberately attacked Israeli civilians and civilian   
   objects. … as the ruling authority of Gaza, Hamas is obligated to uphold   
   the laws of war and should appropriately punish those responsible for   
   serious violations".   
      
      
   Thanks to the generous assistance by the UN and it’s Donor Nations,   
   Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Fatah and others have fired around   
   30,000 Rockets at Israel between Israel’s de-occupation of the Gaza   
   strip in 2005 and 2024 or on average over a 1,000 per year.   
      
   Thus the UN is knowingly complicit in a long running and sustained War   
   Crime.   
      
   It is the responsibility of the UN to ensure so-called Humanitarian   
   Assistance provided to Gaza is not redirected to making weapons used in   
   war crimes. If it cannot assure this is the case, it should not supply   
   humanitarian assistance.   
      
   In addition the UN and it’s Donors also supplied, free of charge   
   building materials used to build over 300km of concrete reinforced   
   tunnels where rockets are assembled, stored and ferried to the launching   
   points, deliberately placed next to public buildings, residential areas,   
   within refugee camps, next to schools and mosques.   
      
   Open Source Intel (@Osint613) on X   
   WATCH Hxmas released a video depicting the launch of long-range rockets   
   at Tel Aviv from a tent within the displaced persons camp in Khan Yunis.   
   https://x.com/Osint613/status/1823403406477730276   
   Firing of rockets is often timed so that any Israeli attempts at   
   targeting the launch locations to make them incapable of being used   
   again to fire more rockets cause maximum casualties among Gazan civilians.   
      
   The fact that tunnels and underground structures are involved mean that   
   Israel is forced to use large and ground penetrating bomb’s to target   
   the launch sites with any chance of disabling them, so fairly widespread   
   destruction is unavoidable.   
      
   Without the generous support from the UN these rockets and tunnels would   
   not exist and would not cause Israeli Air- or Artillery Strikes to   
   disable terror infrastructure and there would be no civilian casualties.   
      
   Thus the UN is also complicit in the killing of civilians in Gaza as a   
   result of the use of the weapons and terror infrastructure they sponsored.   
      
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   Hamp Maccoy   
     · Sep 4   
   With all the money that’s been donated to the Gazans over the years they   
   should be thriving and made something of themselves!! Buildings,,ample   
   food and a modern infrastructure etc etc but no,,it all goes towards   
   terrorist activities,,death and destruction and has been so for many   
   decades now!! What…   
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   Carol E Smith   
     · Sep 5   
   Gaza have had the exact same opportunities as Israel and could’ve had it   
   all. A great location on the Med it would have been a much sought after   
   fabulous tourist destination with great hotels, restaurants, shopping   
   shopping malls, all manner of water based activities, a world class golf   
   resort etc with work , money and a good life for all but instead Hamas   
   and their people CHOSE the path of PURE HATRED towards Israel in their   
   goal to annihilate Israel and all Jews.   
      
   Meanwhile Israel has become a First World Country who are forerunners in   
   many fields including education, engineering, medicine, agriculture, IT,   
   Science, Arts but their most admirable project was devising and   
   implementing ways to make a previously useless desert bloom to produce   
   all manner of products- fruit, vegetables, flowers , cereals etc . - not   
   only enough to sustain themselves but also to sell across the world. All   
      
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