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|    Where is Hamas getting the rockets it fi    |
|    24 Sep 24 12:30:27    |
      XPost: rec.aviation.military, soc.history.war.misc, or.politics       XPost: rec.autos.sport.f1, seattle.politics       From: a425couple@hotmail.com              from Quora              Sankt Panzerfaust (aka Panzer Knight)       Has common sense!Sep 4       Where is Hamas getting the rockets it fires into Israel?        From the UN of course.              Other Palestinian Groups get their rockets from the UN too.              As a rule, the Islamist terror group Palestinian Islamic Jihad fires       most rockets, over a third, Hamas under a quarter, another 10% are fired       by Fatah (aka “The Palestinian Authority”) and the rest by smaller or       unknown actors.              The Qassam rockets were introduced in 2006 a year after Israel had       completely withdrawn and de-occupied the Gaza Strip. The rockets are       quite primitive, the UN provides most of the critical materials, Hamas       and co just assemble the parts and materials provided for free by the UN.              The bodies of the Qassam rockets are steel water pipes, supplied by the       UN and it’s donors.              The launchers simple welded steel frames made from common steel profiles       intended for buildings, supplied by the UN and it’s donors.              The propellant of the rockets is a solid mixture of sugar and fertiliser       (potassium nitrate), both of which are supplied by the UN and it’s donors.              The warhead is often filled with another fertiliser, urea nitrate, also       supplied by the UN and it’s donors. At other times ammonium nitrate       fertliser mixed TNT smuggled in via Egypt is use. The TNT is purchased       using money donated by the UN and other Donors.              The rocket consists of a steel cylinder, containing a rectangular block       of the propellant. A steel plate which forms and supports the nozzles is       then spot-welded to the base of the cylinder. The warhead consists of a       simple metal shell surrounding the explosives, and is triggered by a       fuse constructed using a simple firearm cartridge, spring and a nail.       The nail is probably also UN supplied.              The cost of the materials used for manufacturing each Qassam is up to       $1,000 per rocket, but most of the materials are actually supplied by       the UN free of charge. So to launch 10,000 rockets at Israel takes       around 10 million USD, but most of this in the form of free aid from the       UN. Given that UN has a billion dollar budget being spent on Gaza       annually, the cost of the rockets is a bagatelle.              Now, does the UN knowingly and willingly supply Hamas with the materials       to build it’s rockets?              Given what is known about the construction and materials used in these       Rockets, the UN should be aware that supplying steel piping, steel       profiles, fertiliser and sugar to Gaza will lead to rockets being made       and that these rockets will be launched at Israel.              It is impossible for the UN to not be aware of these facts.              Human Rights Watch has called the use of Qassam rockets by Hamas against       civilians and civilian targets illegal under international law.              Or more clearly a WAR CRIME.              In a 2005 statement, Human Rights Watch said that "such weapons are       therefore indiscriminate when used against targets in population       centers. The absence of Israeli military forces in the areas where       rockets have hit, as well as statements by leaders of Palestinian armed       groups that population centres were being targeted, indicate that the       armed groups deliberately attacked Israeli civilians and civilian       objects. … as the ruling authority of Gaza, Hamas is obligated to uphold       the laws of war and should appropriately punish those responsible for       serious violations".                     Thanks to the generous assistance by the UN and it’s Donor Nations,       Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Fatah and others have fired around       30,000 Rockets at Israel between Israel’s de-occupation of the Gaza       strip in 2005 and 2024 or on average over a 1,000 per year.              Thus the UN is knowingly complicit in a long running and sustained War       Crime.              It is the responsibility of the UN to ensure so-called Humanitarian       Assistance provided to Gaza is not redirected to making weapons used in       war crimes. If it cannot assure this is the case, it should not supply       humanitarian assistance.              In addition the UN and it’s Donors also supplied, free of charge       building materials used to build over 300km of concrete reinforced       tunnels where rockets are assembled, stored and ferried to the launching       points, deliberately placed next to public buildings, residential areas,       within refugee camps, next to schools and mosques.              Open Source Intel (@Osint613) on X       WATCH Hxmas released a video depicting the launch of long-range rockets       at Tel Aviv from a tent within the displaced persons camp in Khan Yunis.       https://x.com/Osint613/status/1823403406477730276       Firing of rockets is often timed so that any Israeli attempts at       targeting the launch locations to make them incapable of being used       again to fire more rockets cause maximum casualties among Gazan civilians.              The fact that tunnels and underground structures are involved mean that       Israel is forced to use large and ground penetrating bomb’s to target       the launch sites with any chance of disabling them, so fairly widespread       destruction is unavoidable.              Without the generous support from the UN these rockets and tunnels would       not exist and would not cause Israeli Air- or Artillery Strikes to       disable terror infrastructure and there would be no civilian casualties.              Thus the UN is also complicit in the killing of civilians in Gaza as a       result of the use of the weapons and terror infrastructure they sponsored.              30.3K views11 upvotes4 shares3 comments       12.4K views       View 733 upvotes       View 13 shares       59 comments from       Hamp Maccoy        and more              Hamp Maccoy        · Sep 4       With all the money that’s been donated to the Gazans over the years they       should be thriving and made something of themselves!! Buildings,,ample       food and a modern infrastructure etc etc but no,,it all goes towards       terrorist activities,,death and destruction and has been so for many       decades now!! What…       (more)              Carol E Smith        · Sep 5       Gaza have had the exact same opportunities as Israel and could’ve had it       all. A great location on the Med it would have been a much sought after       fabulous tourist destination with great hotels, restaurants, shopping       shopping malls, all manner of water based activities, a world class golf       resort etc with work , money and a good life for all but instead Hamas       and their people CHOSE the path of PURE HATRED towards Israel in their       goal to annihilate Israel and all Jews.              Meanwhile Israel has become a First World Country who are forerunners in       many fields including education, engineering, medicine, agriculture, IT,       Science, Arts but their most admirable project was devising and       implementing ways to make a previously useless desert bloom to produce       all manner of products- fruit, vegetables, flowers , cereals etc . - not       only enough to sustain themselves but also to sell across the world. 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