XPost: alt.global-warming   
   From: al@aohell.com   
      
   On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:43:34 +0200,  Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn says...   
      
   > There has to be a reason why the atmospheric temperature rises.   
      
   Noooo. Really?   
      
   The rise in temperature today, is NO different than rises in the past.   
      
   Have you NEVER heard of the Holocene Maximum Warming Epoch? The Minoan,   
   Roman and Medieval Warming Eras?   
      
   What was the reason THOSE warming eras "happened", and how were they any   
   different than today's warming?   
      
   Cycles. Not motorcycles, not washing machine cycles... WARMING cycles.   
   They follow cooling cycles. They've been happening since there's BEEN   
   climate.   
      
   Milankovitch. Learn it. Love it. Live it.   
      
   If you're one of those idiots that think CO², you know, that .04% of the   
   atmosphere gas, is responsible for warming, then YOU need to prove it   
   first, that THAT is a fact now, not a theory, because it is STILL just a   
   theory.   
      
   Because a scientist "proved" that CO² in large quantities CAN, indeed,   
   cause a chamber in a laboratory to "hold in warmth", doesn't mean it's   
   been proven that .04% of the atmosphere does, IN NATURE.   
      
   "We can do experiments on small scales in the lab. We can make   
   OBSERVATIONS on a global scale, but you're right, it is hard to replicate   
   in a three foot by three foot chamber. It's a challenge to replicate   
   that."  -  Professor Kristie Boering, UC Berkley   
      
   Even SHE knows you can't replicate ALL of Earth's variables, in a   
   laboratory. Whether ANYONE can prove that CO² is a greenhouse gas, is   
   irrelevant... man has yet to be proven to cause anything relating to   
   weather and climate. We CAN seed clouds and change the weather, but our   
   minuscule output of CO² .024% 24ppm, isn't causing anything.   
      
   Unless "they" can re-create the The Earth itself inside those chambers   
   (LOL), it's geology, The Sun, the Moon, the stars (humour, arr arr),   
   Earth's magnetic field, air currents, ocean currents, cloud patterns,   
   resonant temperature cycles, energy storage, release mechanisms, etc.,   
   don't bother.   
      
   NO ONE can "imitate" Earth's TOTAL atmospheric conditions, etc., in a lab   
   and tell anyone, WITH CERTAINTY, that CO² is THE factor in Global Warming   
   and Climate Change.   
      
   > So, what do   
   > you think is the reason?  Denial is not enough in science; you have to come   
   > with a *sound* *alternative* theory in order to be taken seriously.   
      
   Really? Seriously?  You've NEVER heard of the natural "Milankovitch   
   Cycle"?   
      
   > No, it is an unfounded assertion based on spurious interpretation of   
   > incomplete data, as is shown below.   
      
   If it's "incomplete", why are climate alarmists SO fucking adamant that   
   it's MAN who is the cause? First thing we need to do, is throw out that   
   garbage that CO² is the "culprit" behind "warming".   
      
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