XPost: alt.global-warming   
   From: eric@nil.invalid.com   
      
   Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote...   
   > Venus is living proof that CO2 *is* a greenhouse gas.  CO2 is certainly not   
   > the only greenhouse gas, but it is the one whose emissions we can control   
   > best.  The main problem is that if we deny what we can already see, and do   
   > not stop CO2 emissions *now*, the problem is going to be worse in the years   
   > to come.  Because if the mean temperature continues to rise at this pace or   
   > faster, methane (a strong greenhouse gas, currently emitted primarily from   
   > farm animals, so reducing mass livestock breeding provides another angle to   
   > tackle the problem) from methane clathrate in the seabeds and the permafrost   
   > will get into the atmosphere, which could trigger a runaway climate change   
   > that cannot be halted (see IPCC, 2013).   
      
   "The single largest CH4 source is natural wetlands."   
   - IPCC, 2013   
      
   There is nothing in IPCC AR5 about methane releases from permafrost and/or   
   seabeds   
   causing runaway climate change that cannot be halted.  You are lying.   
      
   See eg:   
   https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter06_FINAL.pdf   
      
   pp 541 542   
      
   Capture of table from IPCC AR5 regarding likelihood of catastrophic methane   
   release:   
   http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/source/ipcc/5ar/graphs/table-12.4-v2.gif   
      
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