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   Kerr-Mudd, John to Retrograde   
   Re: NASA Battery Tech to Deliver for the   
   01 Oct 23 20:09:30   
   
   From: admin@127.0.0.1   
      
   On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 11:27:12 -0400   
   Retrograde  wrote:   
      
   > On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 07:39:00 -0500   
   > JAB  wrote:   
   >   
   > > Trade offs must be considered....charge cycles....safety...raw   
   > > material available...battery dimensions, weight, etc   
   >   
   > The big one is, unfortunately, cost.  Li-Ion works "pretty well" at far   
   > lower cost.  Some of that is economies of scale.  And not just purchase   
   > cost - cost of operation, maintenance, replacement, decommissioning,   
   > safety features etc.   
   >   
   > Li-Ion is currently 90% of the grid-scale battery market.  Their   
   > combustibility is being handled by new systems that automatically   
   > monitor and control heat build up and deploy fire protection systems if   
   > necessary.  That's not ideal, but it seems to still be more cost   
   > effective than alternatives.   
      
   There's the scaling up problem - is there enough Lithium out there? (I   
   don't know it's a geniune question)   
      
   https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20201124-how-geothermal-lithi   
   m-could-revolutionise-green-energy   
   (I just get "Loading", maybe it works for othyer browsers)   
      
   >   
   > I'm watching flow batteries carefully, but they're finicky and   
   > expensive.  Check out vanadium redox for example.   
      
      
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