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|    boxman to Skywise    |
|    Re: liminous intensity question    |
|    15 Jul 13 09:27:02    |
      From: boxman@voyager.net              On 7/14/2013 8:08 PM, Skywise wrote:       > I'm trying to compare brightnesses of LED's based on specs       > given in mcd (milli-candela). I have some samples of known       > mcd and viewing angle and want to use them as a reference       > to spec sheets I'm reading.       >       > I understand that luminous intensity is in part a function       > of the viewing angle.       >       > Am I right in understanding that, assuming all else being       > equal, if I cut the viewing angle in half the luminous       > intensity goes up by 4? That is, a given LED at 1000mcd and       > 60° viewing angle will be 4000mcd at 30° viewing angle?       >       > My reasoning is that since the area of a circle goes as the       > square of the radius, so if the radius of a circle doubles       > it's area increases by 4 times, and since the viewing angle       > is a light cone which projects a circle...       >       > Or, am I still a noob? :)       >       > The goal is to be able to read the specs and say to myself,       > "WOW!! This LED will appear about X times brighter than the       > one I have in my hand."       >       > Brian       >              It's not exactly as you describe, here are a few things that might help       you to make better comparisons.              1. The viewing angle isn't necessarily standard from manufacturer to       manufacturer. It is common to use the full width half maximum (FWHM)       which means that the viewing angle is the angle at which the intensity       drops to 50% of the maximum intensity on axis. However some       manufacturers will use the 10% level to define their viewing angles in       which case the same LED would have larger quoted viewing angles if using       the 10% criteria. It is often not stated on the data sheet as to which       one was used, so if there is an intensity vs. angle curve you can verify       it by looking at that or assume that the more common FWHM metric was       used.              2. It is nearly universal that the intensity quoted on spec sheets by       manufacturers is the intensity measured along the LED optical axis and       is the maximum intensity (unless you have LEDs with specialized       radiation patterns such as a batwing or side emitter).              3. Intensity as you are referring to it is a photometric quantity       defined by the differential flux contained within a differential solid       angle. If you can treat your source as lambertian, you can approximate       the maximum intensity along the axis by using the formula for the solid       angle of a centered cone which is pi*sin^2(theta) where theta is your       FWHM value divided by 2. To get intensity divide the flux (power in       lumens of the LED) by the calculated solid angle.              This will only be approximate because most LEDs are not true lambertian       sources, especially if they have lenses over them used to narrow the       beam.              4. If you are really looking to compare brightnesses, you have to       consider one other factor which is the physical area of the emitter.       Intensity is not the quantity that identifies brightness, rather       luminance is the photometric quantity related to brightness. So for       example if you have a 3mm and a 5mm led with the same itensity in mcd,       the 3 mm LED will appear brighter. The luminance is inversely       proportional to the square of the area of the emitter.              To be totally nitpicky, brightness is a sensation that depends on       several factors (background luminance, adaptation levels etc) and       doesn't necessarily behave linearly, so luminance on it's own doesn't       specify brightness. If however you are observing the different LEDs in       the same conditions over a small range of luminances, then luminance can       be a reasonable surrogate to approximate the X times brightness       increase.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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