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|    Re: Reasonably priced Avalanche PhotoDio    |
|    07 Apr 14 03:52:50    |
      Hi Phil...               On my current system I get about 5nA from a 7mm2 PD. My current system gain is       about 6M times.               No reflector tape is possible, however I will push the laser to a higher power       while reducing the duty cycle to that average power is preserved, the issue is       even a low frequency of 1-2MHz rise time becomes a problem . I will probably       give a higher        negative bias to reduce the capacitance so that the rise time could be gained       back. I expect to gain 6db by way of pushing laser power and some other       optical means, if I can squeeze the duty cycle to half or more another       additional 3db lurking somewhere        there, so all in all perhaps I can gain another 10db but I think I need more       like 25db improvement to achieve a good signal SNR.               Anyway, I will spin a board to see if I could solve the problems this way.       Last resort is APD.                             >        > > Phil,       >        > >       >        > > I own a copy of your book. It is fantastic great job.       >        > >       >        > > My current system, I sense an object that is far away using a very       >        > > weak laser. (For various reasons, it needs to be weak and it is       >        > > pulsed at a low frequency of 1MHz) My distance of sensing is 400mm.       >        > > Now for a next version, I need to extend my distance of sensing to       >        > > 4Meter. I currently use a si-pd and I have done a lot to make this       >        > > current system work at 400mm, now I need 10x the improvement, based       >        > > on my experience I don't think I can get this done, hence the       >        > > Avalanche PD idea.       >        > >       >        >        >        > The thing about APDs is that they multiply the shot noise of the ambient        >        > light as well as the signal, so they're really only useful when you'd        >        > otherwise be in the Johnson noise limit. A gain of M lets you drop the        >        > feedback resistance by a factor of M**2, so in some situations that's a win.       >        >        >        > Advanced front ends are much cheaper, though--usually only a few dollars        >        > in onesies.       >        >        >        > How much photocurrent are you expecting to have, and how big is your        >        > detector?       >        >        >        > Any possibility of putting some retroreflecting tape on the target?        >        > That's good for a factor of about 3000 (70 dB electrical) compared to a        >        > Lambertian scatterer.       >        >        >        > Cheers       >        >        >        > Phil Hobbs       >        >        >        > --        >        > Dr Philip C D Hobbs       >        > Principal Consultant       >        > ElectroOptical Innovations LLC       >        > Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics       >        >        >        > 160 North State Road #203       >        > Briarcliff Manor NY 10510       >        >        >        > hobbs at electrooptical dot net       >        > http://electrooptical.net              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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