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   ggherold@gmail.com to Skywise   
   Re: How to violate the (Clausius stateme   
   26 Apr 14 16:29:34   
   
   On Saturday, April 26, 2014 4:02:39 PM UTC-4, Skywise wrote:   
   > haiticare2011@gmail.com wrote in   
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   > news:84c71fb6-4e94-402f-afdb-13657eedb201@googlegroups.com:   
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   > > It's true, perpetual motion machines are to be treated with skepticism,   
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   > > but as a point in the philosophy of science, there is no law that   
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   > > precludes them on theoretical grounds.   
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   > > Yet we "know"it's impossible.   
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   > As I understand it, perpetual motion is not impossible, but   
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   > extracting ANY work out of it is. Therefore, a perpetual motion   
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   > machine is, if one could be made, useless.   
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   > I think a lot of folks confound "perpetual motion" with "free   
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   > energy".   
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   > I get this, and all I've had is high school physics and chem,   
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   > and decades of self reading.   
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   > Brian   
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   > http://www.earthwaves.org/forum/index.php - Earthquake prediction & Earth   
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   > http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism   
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   > Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?   
      
   Yeah I think that's OK.   
   If I crank up the current and B field in a SC. magnet,   
   and then put it in persistence mode.   
   (close the SC shunt that allows you to change the current...   
   it's then a closed loop and I can turn off the power supply.)   
   How long will it last?  (assuming I keep it cold and all.)   
      
   George H.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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