On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:16:39 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:   
   > On 04/30/2014 09:30 AM, ha1i2tic3are2011@gmail.com wrote:   
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   > > Not so, see above for an example.  Natural laws are summaries of   
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   > > observed behaviour, not logical axioms.   
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   > > Not quite. Lamarckism was based on observations, and flat earth too. How   
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   > > going to vet various peoples' observations, particularly when their ego and   
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   > > authority is tied up in degrees and positions based on their view of   
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   > John, you're skating nearer and nearer to troll status.  Just saying.   
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   Phil, yes, my policy is to stick to the argument, and avoid name calling.   
   That being said, I do feel that people have habit patterns based on degrees   
   and professional groups. Haven't you read the famous "Structure of Scientific   
   Revolutions," by Thomas Kuhn? I'm sorry you took my comments personally.   
   I believe in dealing with the issue, not the personalities. As soon as   
   you engage in name calling, you've lost the argument, in my book. There's a   
   lot of it in these groups. Since there is no one in charge, I just ignore the   
   personalities and treat everything as a logical, scientific argument. Example:   
      
   Someone says:   
   "You are a total idiot, and obviously have alzheimers."   
      
   Well, that's a tough scientific hypothesis to prove, isn't it? So you could   
   ignore it, or say jokingly:   
      
   "I just had that checked at the doctors, and showed him your post, and he said   
   you did!"   
      
   "I now you are wrong, since I ate my cereal without spilling it down my front   
   this morning!"   
      
   "Yes, you have me worried I have alzheimers, since you obviously have   
   experience with it."   
      
   BUT - better not to pollute your thoughts with comebacks or repartees. That way   
   you stay clean. Best strategy is to return to the argument, even if you are   
   wrong.   
      
   So apologies for the insults.   
   JB   
      
   PS - I shouldn't say this, but haveyou eve said to your kids, "stop this   
   fighting or I am turning this car around?" :) Another interesting insight on   
   this whole thing, the discourse here, is that we all are creating what is   
   happening here. I don't know what your excuse is, but I'm suspecting this   
   is a colossal waste of time.   
      
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