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   jeroen Belleman to ggherold@gmail.com   
   Re: a single photon   
   23 Jul 14 23:21:19   
   
   From: jeroen@nospam.please   
      
   On 23/07/14 21:36, ggherold@gmail.com wrote:   
   > On Monday, July 21, 2014 5:55:26 PM UTC-4, RichD wrote:   
   >> Let's say you radiate a pulse of energy from a dipole antenna at   
   >> 100 MHz, equal to a single photon. Sort of tiny, but elctrical   
   >> engineers are a clever lot, I'm sure they're up to it.   
   >    
   >>   
   >> Rich   
   >   
   > Rich can I change your question to something that is kinda doable?   
   >   
   > So say a set up a light source on earth. Maybe it's monochromatic,   
   > but that shouldn't really matter.  And I can put attenuators in the   
   > beam such that I can reduce the intensity to ~1 photon/ second*.  Now   
   > on the moon I set up a big array of PMT's.  (and I also shut off the   
   > sun and all other light sources :^) We'll imagine the array covers   
   > the beam spread.  And now I monitor the PMT's.  What do I see?   
   > (Except for dark counts and stray light and all that.) I see a   
   > detection in one PMT and then a different one.. etc, the beam is   
   > spread out over many miles or whatever.  But I still get one count at   
   > a time.   
   >   
   > George H.   
      
   What you'll see is that the detectors trigger randomly and   
   independently. No correlation. The trigger rate will obey Poisson   
   statistics. That's no proof that light is quantized! Only that the   
   light *detectors* are!   
      
   Even if we admit that light is a classical wave phenomenon, it is   
   possible to reduce the intensity to the point that there is a   
   arbitrarily small probability that two detectors trigger 'at the   
   same time'. But that probability will never quite reach zero. The   
   concept of 'at the same time' also needs further qualification.   
   Does it mean in the same nanosecond? On the same day?   
      
   I've never seen an experiment that convincingly demonstrates   
   that light is indeed quantized.   
      
   Jeroen Belleman   
      
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