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|    Re: energy flow    |
|    24 Jul 15 15:18:07    |
      From: r_delaney2001@yahoo.com              On July 16, 2015 Phil Hobbs wrote:       > > Recently, I attended a seminar of Hamilton's cone, or       > > whatever it's called, inside crystals.       > > Apparently, research continues on this phenomenon,       > > there's still new stuff to uncover.       > >       > > At one point, the speaker said, "the direction of energy flow       > > is different than the wave direction."       > > ??       > > If I recall correctly, the wave direction is given       > > by the Poynting vector (the most mnemonic label in       > > science): E x H. Am I now to believe the power       > > doesn't flow the same way?       >       > You have to be careful about your terms. Phase propagates as usual,       > exp(i k x - omega t) for a plane wave. However, in an anisotropic       > crystal, the main part of the optical power doesn't necessarily       > propagate along k.              No doubt you're right, but I don't get it. It's partly       a matter of semantics - I don't grok the difference       between 'phase propagation', 'wave propagation', and       'energy propagation'              My memory of the physics, is that at a particular point       and moment, the field is represented by a 6-vector       (3 x E, 3 x H), and the energy is given by E x H.       That vector then 'travels', loosely speaking, to the       neighboring point; hence velocity. I don't understand       how that could differ from energy flow (or optical power flow).              --       Rich              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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