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|    Phil Hobbs to RichD    |
|    Re: energy flow    |
|    24 Jul 15 18:28:32    |
      From: pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net              On 7/24/2015 6:18 PM, RichD wrote:       > On July 16, 2015 Phil Hobbs wrote:       >>> Recently, I attended a seminar of Hamilton's cone, or       >>> whatever it's called, inside crystals.       >>> Apparently, research continues on this phenomenon,       >>> there's still new stuff to uncover.       >>>       >>> At one point, the speaker said, "the direction of energy flow       >>> is different than the wave direction."       >>> ??       >>> If I recall correctly, the wave direction is given       >>> by the Poynting vector (the most mnemonic label in       >>> science): E x H. Am I now to believe the power       >>> doesn't flow the same way?       >>       >> You have to be careful about your terms. Phase propagates as usual,       >> exp(i k x - omega t) for a plane wave. However, in an anisotropic       >> crystal, the main part of the optical power doesn't necessarily       >> propagate along k.       >       > No doubt you're right, but I don't get it. It's partly       > a matter of semantics - I don't grok the difference       > between 'phase propagation', 'wave propagation', and       > 'energy propagation'       >       > My memory of the physics, is that at a particular point       > and moment, the field is represented by a 6-vector       > (3 x E, 3 x H), and the energy is given by E x H.       > That vector then 'travels', loosely speaking, to the       > neighboring point; hence velocity. I don't understand       > how that could differ from energy flow (or optical power flow).       >       > --       > Rich       >              In an anisotropic medium, there are still plane wave solutions [i.e.       something times exp(i k dot x - omega t) ]. However, due to the       anisotropic electric and magnetic susceptibility, E and/or H aren't       orthogonal to _k_. That means that E cross H doesn't lie along _k_, so       the Poynting vector (energy propagation) is in a different direction       from _k_ (phase propagation).              Cheers              Phil Hobbs              --       Dr Philip C D Hobbs       Principal Consultant       ElectroOptical Innovations LLC       Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics              160 North State Road #203       Briarcliff Manor NY 10510              hobbs at electrooptical dot net       http://electrooptical.net              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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