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|    RichD to Phil Hobbs    |
|    Re: energy flow    |
|    26 Jul 15 19:14:23    |
      From: r_delaney2001@yahoo.com              On July 24, Phil Hobbs wrote:       >>>> Recently, I attended a seminar of Hamilton's cone, or       >>>> whatever it's called, inside crystals.       >>>> At one point, the speaker said, "the direction of energy flow       >>>> is different than the wave direction."       >>>> ??       >>>> If I recall correctly, the wave direction is given       >>>> by the Poynting vector: E x H. Am I now to believe       >>>> the power doesn't flow the same way?       >       >>> You have to be careful about your terms. Phase propagates       >>> as usual, exp(i k x - omega t) for a plane wave. However,       >>> in an anisotropic crystal, the main part of the optical power       >>> doesn't necessarily propagate along k.       > >       > > No doubt you're right, but I don't get it. It's partly       > > a matter of semantics - I don't grok the difference       > > between 'phase propagation', 'wave propagation', and       > > 'energy propagation'       > >       > > My memory of the physics, is that at a particular point       > > and moment, the field is represented by a 6-vector       > > (3 x E, 3 x H), and the energy is given by E x H.       > > That vector then 'travels', loosely speaking, to the       > > neighboring point; hence velocity. I don't understand       > > how that could differ from energy flow (or optical power flow).       >       > In an anisotropic medium, there are still plane wave solutions       > [i.e. something times exp(i k dot x - omega t) ]. However,       > due to the anisotropic electric and magnetic susceptibility,       > E and/or H aren't orthogonal to _k_. That means that E cross       > H doesn't lie along _k_, so the Poynting vector (energy       > propagation) is in a different direction from _k_ (phase       > propagation).              OK, I think I get the idea: the wave propagates as       usual, but Poynting points in a different direction.              As I suspected, it's a matter of semantics -       'energy flow' doesn't imply flow, as a river, but       indicates the direction of E x H.              Thanks. Can you recommend a text which explores this further?              --       Rich              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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