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|    Wei Lu to Michael Uplawski    |
|    =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[Apples]_determining_the_=    |
|    19 Dec 24 16:31:12    |
      From: luweitest@gmail.com              On 2024-12-11 7:34, Michael Uplawski wrote:       > Supersedes for typo, Kraut2English in progress       >       > Good afternoon.       >       > My question first: Is it possible to measure the wavelength of the       > light emitted or reflected from a surface in a way that would be       > practicable for just anybody, and with objects that would have to be       > “tested” all few minutes?       > ...       Yes, like bob posted, what you need is a spectrometer designed for       surface reflectance measurement (380~780nm). I am not familiar with the       products in the market, yet I think it could use an integration sphere       with an opening size to cover a meaningful area, but not too big to       deviate much from the measurement principle, maybe 5~10mm diameter, and       with a space that could hold an apple under the opening.              Then you need the software to calculate the colour of the surface.Some       device may have the feature, or you can DIY (in principle, by multiply       the incident spectrum (sun's spectrum AM1.5 could be a reference), the       measured reflectance spectrum, and the 3 response curve of the human       eye,and integrate across 380~780nm). You will get a color coordinate,       which are 3 quantitative value that can be used to compare, reproduce,       or automatic select by machine.              It should be noted that the result is the colour and brightness       perceived by a "standard" observer (the integration sphere), not the       same as human eyes perceived in normal conditions. So you should not       select an area of the "preferred" colour (in this case green) directly       from the colour space (as in       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CIE1931xy_CIERGB.svg), instead, like       in machine learning, you should use the "preferred" apples as samples to       get a "preferred" colour space area, then use it as the selection standard.              --       Wei Lu       PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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