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|    John Heath to All    |
|    How to measure a Lorentz contraction vol    |
|    28 Feb 17 08:02:29    |
      From: heathjohn2@gmail.com              I asked this question in an electrical       engineering group. The room went so       quiet you could hear a pin drop. Maybe       physics research group is a more       appropriate place to pose this question.       I will copy and paste the original question.              This one has been on my bucket list for       a while. How to make a Lorentz contraction       voltage measurement ? It is my hope by       putting some of my failed attempts on the       table that others on the list could breath       new life into this problem. An out of the       box approach from different shoes that       would not occur to myself.              First of all what is a Lorentz contraction       voltage measurement. If one probe is grounded       and the other toughing a magnet the voltage       should be extremely negative , 100 KV or       so. Not just a magnet but a copper wire       carrying 10 amps should also have effective       electron contraction leading to an extreme       negative voltage around the wire. However it       can not be measured with a conventional meter       as the meter leads are entering the magnetic       frame of reference therefore it cancels out.       Its a no win.              Failed attempts on my part. Use a magnetic       probe. Close but no cigar as a magnetic probe        , current probe , makes a distinction between       north and south poles. Lorentz electron length       contraction makes no such distinction as both       north and south poles have effective length       contraction therefore negative charge. Same       is true of current in a wire regardless of       current direction.              Build a mechanical mono pole south in and       another north in with flat magnets then       measure the voltage between both opposite       mono poles from the inside. Can not remember       why I thought that would work. Suffice to       say it did not work.              Not tried yet. A gold leaf jar. Replace the       gold leaf with two pieces of iron then connect       the new iron leaf jar with thin bars of iron       to make contact with the magnet. An iron leaf       jar would not make a distinction between north       or south poles of a magnet as in both cases the       iron leafs would separate a little. However       would this be measuring a Coulomb force caused       by Lorentz electron contraction or just a dirty       trick to lose the distinction between a north       and south poles?              One more. Sky charge. Sky charge is about       100 volts per meter or 200 volts from head to       toe. Like the Lorentz electron contraction       this is a voltage that can not be measured       with a conventional meter. The solution is a       voltage field meter. It consist of a fan ,       sheet of copper and a hole on top. If there       is a fluctuating voltage at the copper plate       that equals the frequency of the fan blades       than there is an electric field. Maybe this       would work?              Any thoughts on this would be welcome.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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