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   On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-6, Nicolaas Vroom wrote:   
   > IMO the uncertainty principle is not a law of physics or science.   
   > As such it can not be used as a concept to describe the physical reality,   
   > nor as an intrinsique part of any other physical law.   
      
   The uncertainty principle can be derived from the commutator   
   [x, p] = i=C4=A7.  One evaluates Tr([x, p]^2), and with completeness   
   sums finds the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. One can also see   
   it as a manifestation of wave mechanics, where classical EM waves   
   obey the relationship =CE=94=CF=89=CE=94t = 1 and for quantum   
   mechanics E = =C4=A7=CF=89 extends this wave result to quantum   
   mechanics as the Heisenberg uncertainty.   
      
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