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|    Lawrence Crowell to James Goetz    |
|    Re: How long will star formation endure     |
|    07 Apr 17 13:01:14    |
      From: goldenfieldquaternions@gmail.com              On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 11:42:28 PM UTC-5, James Goetz wrote:       > Lord Kelvin's prediction of heat death indicates the eventual end       > to star formation in the observable universe.       >       > Have any astrophysicists made any predictions for the endurance of       > star formation in the observable universe?       >       > Or does anybody here want to take a crack at predicting it?       >       > [[Mod. note --       > 1. This is really an astronomy question rather than a general physics       > question, so I have set the Followup-To header to point to our       > sister newsgroup sci.astro.research .       > 2. As to answering your question: Trying to understand/model the star       > formation rate of the universe has been a major research area for       > decades (e.g., try the search term "star formation history of the univ=       erse"       > in google scholar or the ADS). But most of this focuses on the *past*       > star formation rate. I'm sure there are studies trying to forecast       > this into the future, but I don't have references handy.       > -- jt]]              The longest lasting stars are red dwarf stars. The smallest of them       can endure for 10 trillion years or more. They slowly convert their       hydrogen into helium and since convection extends from the core to       the surface all hydrogen cycles through. Further, they die not by       entering a red giant phase, but they just wink out. Red dwarf stars       end up as cold gas balls of helium plus hydrogen.              Star formation will continue so long as there are large stars that       shed material at the end of their fusion phase. Don't quote me on       the number, but from the population II stars of 10 billion years       ago to now with Population I stars the rate of star formation has       dropped by about 1/10. Also galaxies coalesce into elliptical       galaxies with low star formation rates. So it is maybe not a bad       estimate to say that star formation will end within a few 100 billion       years or a trillion years. In 100 billion years based on the trend       with PopII stars compared to PopI stars star formation rate will       be about 10 billion times lower than now. So the duration of red       dwarfs indicates about how low stars will be active.              Data suggests cosmology will expand in an accelerated fashion without       recollapse. So heat death appears inevitable. There is the issue       of phantom energy and the big rip. Data on the cosmological constant       has p = -1.00x (x > 0 can't remember what it is) with error bars       extending a bit into the big rip area. This is where the cosmological       horizon will contract and the accelerated expansion increase.       Eventually everything is ripped apart, including quarks in protons       etc. I have for some time disliked this idea, but given the data       it can't be foreclosed on. If the big rip happens that may put an       end to star formation before the heat death scenario.              LC              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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