From: g.scholten@nospam.gmx.de   
      
   John Heath wrote:   
      
   > I am going to make a cannon to test Newtonian physics. The cannon will   
   > consist of gun powder and a cannon ball. The mass of the cannon ball   
   > will be an impressive not 1 not 2 not but 4 electrons . This is a   
   > heavy cannon ball! The gun powder will be the total energy of the   
   > annihilation 1 electron and 1 positron.   
      
   I highly doubt that you will be able to realize such an experiment in   
   practice. So, obviously, it is rather a thought experiment what you   
   descibe here.   
      
      
   > We are talking E=MC^2 gun   
   > powder of 1.022 MeV or 1.602e-13 Joules in Newtonian style with a   
   > massive cannon ball of 4 electrons 2.044 MeV or 3.5632e-13 K Grams   
   > Newtonian. Let us light the fuse on this weapon of mass   
   > destruction. According to Newtonian physics the velocity will be V in   
   > meters per second = SQR( energy in joules / mass in (K gram /2 )).   
   > This makes the velocity of our cannon ball 299,780,663 meters per   
   > second.   
      
   According to Newtonian Mechanics, it would. However, Newtonian Mechanics   
   is known to break down for velocities that are not << c.   
      
      
   > Do you see the problem? The number 229,780.663 meters per second. What   
   > on earth is the speed of light doing in Newtonian physics. They did   
   > not know the speed of light at this time. Why would our quad electron   
   > cannon ball have a velocity of exactly c calculated using only   
   > Newtonian physics V=SQR(energy / (mass/2)) ?   
      
   As Gary already pointed out: because you explicitly entered that speed   
   into the formulas. You explicitly assumed that the kinetic energy is   
      
   E_kin = 2 me c^2   
      
   with me being the known mass of the electron, me = 9.1E-31 kg, and c   
   being 229,780,663 m/s. So, combining this with Newtonian formula   
      
   E_kin = 1/2 m v^2   
      
   with m = 4 me being the mass or your cannon ball and c the resulting   
   speed of that ball, the result is v = c = 229,780,663 m/s, the number   
   you explicitly entered.   
      
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