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   From: helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de   
      
   In article ,   
   Gerry Quinn  writes:   
      
   > The smooth distribution always has the same entropy.  Start with the   
   > smooth distribution and no gravity, and increase the gravitational   
   > constant.  Now high entropy states start to become available that were   
   > not available withouy gravity.   
      
   Sounds plausible.   
      
   > To put it another way, the 'clumpy' states in the non-gravitational   
   > universe have lower entropy than the smooth state, but the clumpy states   
   > in the gravitational universe have higher entropy than the smooth state.   
      
   Imagine a clumpy universe with no gravity.  It has low entropy (lower   
   than the smooth universe).  Now G starts increasing from zero to, say,   
   its current value (at which point the clumpy universe has a higher   
   entropy than the smooth universe).  At some value of G, the clumpy   
   universe must have the same entropy as the smooth universe (which you   
   say has the same entropy with or without gravity).  So for this value of   
   G, the entropy is independent of the clumpiness.   
      
   Someone has made an error somewhere.   
      
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