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|    Ralph Frost to Edgar L. Owen    |
|    Re: Are north and south magnetic fields     |
|    18 Jul 17 12:08:05    |
      From: ralph.frost@gmail.com              On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 8:11:16 AM UTC-4, Edgar L. Owen wrote:       > On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 8:18:11 AM UTC-4, Ralph Frost wrote:       > > Please pardon my poorly worded question. Are there ~independent methods       > > of detecting a north pole/flux of a magnet from a south pole/flux?       > >       > > When I hold two rod magnets, one in each hand, and the center ends       > > attract, I can obtain repulsion two ways by giving either magnet/hand       > > one-half spin. Thus it appears that repulsion is attraction with       > > one-half spin (and potentially, 'north is south with one-half spin'...)       > >       > > Generally, we are taught that one of these repulsions is 'north-north'       > > and the other is 'south-south' (like-pole repulsion).       > >       > > I understand that if I am given an unmarked magnet, that I can assign       > > its ends a north or south label by the way it orients, say, within the       > > local geomagnetic field and ~relative to our prevailing planetary       > > spatial orientation relative to the 'North Star' -- Polaris.       > >       > > But, I wonder, and my question is, other than the inherited, nested, or       > > cross-dimensional correlation, does physics have any other means or       > > measures that determine if a repulsive magnetic region is 'north-north'       > > rather than 'south-south'? For instance, do they 'look different' unde=       r       > > different spectral scannings?       > >       > > I'm curious about this because it seems like our words seem to imply or       > > identify the existence of two separate 'things' whereas empirically,       > > there is or seems to be only the one, rather entangled or inseparable       > > 'thing'.       > > =20       > > Thanks in advance for any clarifications.       > >       > > Best regards,       > > Ralph Frost       > >       > > Reality is nested structured~duality.       >       > Ralph,       >       > There actually aren't any such thing as magnetic poles because magnetic       > field lines are continuous circles through the magnet itself. What we       > call magnetic poles are simply the denser field lines entering and       > exiting magnetic materials.       >       > The non-existence of magnetic poles is easily seen in the magnetic field       > circling a current carrying wire which has no poles at all.       >       > Electromagnetism is explained in detail in my book Universal Reality 2.0       > available on Amazon under my name.       >       > Edgar L. Owen              Thank you, Edgar. I think I see what you mean about an circulating       magnetic flux line, but the other night I tore into my lawn mower       motor and cleaned oxidation off surfaces of 'magnetic poles' trying       to regain spark at the plug. (The real problem turned out to be       failing/poor lubrication with the kill switch cable.)              Anyway, the ends or surfaces of the magnets differ from their       partners, apparently differing in structural alignment -- internal       nested spins -- whether lines are entering or leaving the 'pole'.       That is, repulsion is attraction with one-half spin, all the way       down. Yet, since I could touch the surfaces I did get the distinct       impression, though, that the poles or entering/exiting surfaces       actually do exist.              Regarding circulating lines about a current-carrying wire, two       related poles that are present are, for instance, the cathode and       anode, of, say, the battery ~pushing the current.              So, poles may not appear to exist in the fields or flux lines, but       when nested within ~physical or higher density 'nested structural       coding' of spins, they ~do.              Best regards,       Ralph Frost              Reality, both the physical and the mental facets, is nested       structured~dual= ity.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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