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|    LuigiFortunati to All    |
|    Re: A calculation (perhaps) impossible    |
|    04 Aug 17 06:47:53    |
      From: fortunati.luigi@gmail.com              Roland Franzius alle ore 08:54:12 del 03/08/2017 ha scritto:       >> The traveling twin starts and goes back to Earth where he finds his       >> 80-year-old brother aged as he is only 10 years old.       >>       >> The wristwatch on the twin traveler's wrist marks (of course) the       >> 10-year time.       >>       >> The earth twin during the years of the trip has been flashing every 10       >> years (his).       >>       >> The last lightning is emitted at the time of the return of the ship,       >> when the Earth clock marks the 80-year time and the wrist watch on       >> the twin traveler marks 10 years.       >>       >> Calculation (perhaps) impossible is this: at the ejection of the       >> penultimate lightning (when the Earth clock marked 70 years) what time       >> was the watch on the wrist of the traveling twin?       >>       >       > There is a Lorentz frame (t,x) of the sun at rest. The orbiting earth as a       rotating light house at constant angular speed emits a flash every year. This       flash is represented by a series of immediate time-forward cones       (t-k)^2=x^2+y^2+z^2, t>k, k=0,1,2..        and so on covering the inner of the first flasch cone over all of space-time.       >       > Any traveller starting at (t,x,y,z)=0 and returning to that straight world       line at a point later (k,0,0,0) on a continous path intersects each forward       light cone once.       >       > This is the kernel of causality: In a flat universe without timelike closed       world lines one cannot miss a light flash signal and one cannot catch a signal       twice as long as on moves on timelike world lines.       >       > The inverse is also true: The traveller moving outward on a straight world       line flashes a signal each year and each signal reaches earth before his       arrival back home. The the same with the inward travel.       >       > The relative clock rates are given by the (hyperbolic functions of the)       angles, by which the world lines of earth and traveller intersect the flash       cone surfaces.       >       > As Minkowski told us, you never may grasp and imagine the simple laws of the       special relativistic kinematics, if you dont switch from meter sticks,       3d-curves and clocks to the picture of world lines in fourdimensional       space-time with a vector norm        representing the lenght of a time intervall of a tangent vector.       >       > This is very similar to the complexity considering curves as y=f(x) like       Kepler did for planets instead of the trivial vector representation in a plane       (x(t),y(t)) as has been considered by Newton.              Ok.              But I ask for a very simple thing to which you did not answer: what time       marks the twin traveler watch when a terrestrial brother emits his       penultimate ray?              --       Luigi Fortunati              Credere e' piu' facile che pensare       Believing is easier than thinking              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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