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|    LuigiFortunati to All    |
|    Re: Twins and space station    |
|    05 Aug 17 08:53:43    |
      From: fortunati.luigi@gmail.com              Tom Roberts alle ore 08:47:53 del 04/08/2017 ha scritto:       > Your "quiet" is a HIGHLY unusual phasing. I assume that when you say "quiet"       > you mean that S is at rest in the same inertial frame as earth. Compared to       > the traveling twin, the earth and S are accurately at rest in an inertial       > frame. When you say "zero time" for both earth and S, I assume that the       > earth and S clocks are synchronized in their inertial frame (i.e. they both       > display that frame's time coordinate, for which t=0 at the traveling twin's       > departure).       >       > The general formula for elapsed proper time of an object moving relative to       > an inertial frame is:       > T_obj = \integral dt / gamma(v)       > where the integral is taken over the path of the moving object, v is its       > speed relative to the frame (as a function of t), t is the time coordinate       > of the frame, and gamma(v)=1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2).       >       > So in the above formula, T=5 years, and gamma(v)=8. Since gamma(v) is       > constant the integral is trivial, with result       > t_elapsed = 5 years * 8 = 40 years.       >       > t_elapsed is the elapsed time in the inertial frame, which is also the value       > of the clock at S.       >       > Tom Roberts               But even the ship's reference is inertial because after the initial       acceleration it travels for 5 years with out-of-engine engines.              [[Mod. note -- The ship's reference frame is inertial during its       outbound journey. Then (after a brief non-inertial period during the       turnaround) the ship's reference fame is a DIFFERENT inertial frame       during its return journey.       -- jt]]              Luigi.              --       Luigi Fortunati              Credere e' piu' facile che pensare       Believing is easier than thinking              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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