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|    Gary Harnagel to LuigiFortunati    |
|    Re: Twins and space station    |
|    08 Aug 17 00:32:42    |
      From: hitlong@yahoo.com              On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 1:52:36 AM UTC-6, LuigiFortunati wrote:       >       > Gary Harnagel alle ore 14:19:01 del 06/08/2017 ha scritto:       > >       > > > In this discussion there is only the going and not the return.       > > > There is an initial acceleration and then for 5 years the traveling       twin       > > > travels with engines off and arrives in S where reading S time of the       > > > clock without reversing the gear.       > > > What it does next does not concern the present discussion.       > >       > > But remember that the times at T and S are no longer synchronized according       > > to the traveling twin after acceleration.       >       > How is T and S times different if both are at rest in K?              The "traveling twin" is not at rest in T and S.              > Let's take a practical example, acceleration lasts one day of the ship's       > time so that at the time of the acceleration the clock of the ship marks       > the 24 hour time.       >       > What could be the times (different) of T and S?       >       > --       > Luigi Fortunati       >       > Credere e' piu' facile che pensare       > Believing is easier than thinking              You didn't specify a value for the acceleration, but if you expect       to have gamma = 8 at the end of one day in the rest frame (i.e.,       v/c = .99217), it would have to be about 2805 g's, so there is little       point in doing that.       > Why not just make it instantaneous?              So when the spaceship begins its journey at v/c = 0.99217 at x = 0       (i.e/, at T) and time t = 0, the time at S is:              t' = gamma*(t - v*xs/c^2)              where xs is the distance to S in the "stationary frame and t' is       the time at S in the moving ship's frame. Since t = 0,              t' = -gamma*v*xs/c^2)              which is NOT 0, so the clocks at S and T are no longer synchronized       according to the moving ship.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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