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|    LuigiFortunati to All    |
|    Lift in free fall    |
|    10 Aug 17 12:01:30    |
      From: fortunati.luigi@gmail.com              The rigid elevator descends in free fall with the acceleration of its       mid point M.              In the elevator there is the ball A that is above M and the ball B       below.              Ball A acceleration is higher than the elevator acceleration and       therefore tends to approach the floor.              The acceleration of the ball B is less than the acceleration of the       elevator and therefore tends to approach the ceiling.              This is the tidal effect inside the elevator.              If it's all right here, I ask: Does the forces pushing (or seem       pushing) A to the floor and B to the ceiling are real or apparent?              --       Luigi Fortunati              Credere e' piu' facile che pensare       Believing is easier than thinking              [[Mod. note -- Note that you have described tidal forces which are       compressive in the vertical plane. The actual tidal forces near the       Earth's surface are just the opposite, i.e., in an actual freely-       -falling elevator near the Earth's surface A would tend to approach       the elevator ceiling and B would tend to approach the elevator floor.              That said, the answer to your question depends on the context:       * In Newtonian mechanics, gravity -- including the tidal effects you        describe -- is viewed as a real force.       * In general relativity, gravity isn't viewed as a force; rather one        simply says that both balls A and B are free-falling, and the Riemann        curvature tensor describes the relative acceleration of nearby        free-falling bodies.       -- jt]]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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