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|    Tom Roberts to toadastronomer@gmail.com    |
|    Re: neutrinos vs compact objects    |
|    17 Oct 17 09:25:33    |
      From: tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net              Note: the current limit on the sum of neutrino masses is below 1 eV. The       neutrinos we detect have energies much greater than that, so they have       speeds greater than 0.99 c. I will discuss only neutrinos that have some       prospect of being detected.              On 10/16/17 6:45 AM, toadastronomer@gmail.com wrote:       > Could neutrinos be lost behind black hole horizons              Certainly.              > or get trapped in accretion around them?              Not likely. The phase space for orbits with speeds > 0.99 c is extremely       small [#], and there's no plausible mechanism to trap neutrinos in such       orbits.               [#] Light orbits a Schwarzschild black hole at r=3M; these        orbits would be slightly outside that. Light orbits are        exactly circular; these are very nearly so.              > Could neutrinos interact strongly with neutron star matter or perhaps get       > trapped in low neutron star orbit?              Note that "strongly interacting" has a technical meaning in physics, and       neutrinos don't interact strongly; they are neutral leptons which       interact only weakly (also a technical term) and gravitationally       (ditto). Once formed, a neutron star is nearly transparent to neutrinos,       due to the tiny neutrino cross-section and the colossal degeneracy of       the neutron-star constituents.              For an object that originates far away from a mass to enter an orbit       requires the object to interact non-gravitationally near the mass, such       that its speed is reduced to that of an orbit there. There is no       plausible way to do that for a neutrino.              > Might the neutrino flux in the direction of the galactic center (or       > line-of-sight to any compact object) be slightly lower than background, due       > to such gravitational interactions?              Unmeasurably so. The only missing neutrinos would be those that       intersect the black hole's horizon, and that subtends an extremely tiny       solid angle from earth. Its gravitation will deflect neutrinos over a       much larger area, which is in principle observable, but in practice our       neutrino detectors cannot point back with anywhere close to enough       accuracy to see it.              Tom Roberts              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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