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   Message 15,956 of 17,520   
   Lawrence Crowell to reply   
   Re: Trouble For Dark Energy Hypothesis?   
   13 Jan 18 19:42:16   
   
   From: goldenfieldquaternions@gmail.com   
      
   On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 1:56:39 AM UTC-6, Phillip Helbig (undress to   
   reply) wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   > "Robert L. Oldershaw"  writes:   
   >   
   > > On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 3:43:04 PM UTC-5, John Heath wrote:   
   > > > On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 5:21:09 PM UTC-5, Phillip Helbig   
   (undress to   
   > > > reply) wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > QUOTE   
   > > > However, they require that we are in the   
   > > > centre of a large overdense region, which seems improbable on other   
   > > > grounds.   
   > > > END QUOTE   
   > > >   
   > > > This is an interesting point. A counter argument came to mind. If one   
   > > > were to wager, bet, where they are in the universe then guessing one is   
   > > > from the denser part of the universe would increase the odds of winning   
   > > > the wager.   
   > >   
   > > Not "overdense"!   
   > >   
   > > Actually PH, like LC, appears to have misread the paper, or...   
   > > Here is a quotation from the conclusions:   
   >   
   > No, you have misunderstood John's COUNTERargument, namely that---all   
   > else being equal---one is more likely to be in an overdense region of   
   > the universe than in an underdense one, simply because there is more   
   > matter---and thus, presumably, more life---in overdense regions.   
   >   
   > In other words, while (and this is an old idea) living in an underdense   
   > region could mean that local expansion is faster than average, perhaps   
   > explaining while the "local" Hubble constant is higher than the Planck   
   > value, or perhaps causing the m-z relation to suggest a cosmological   
   > constant when there really is none, John's argument is that this is a   
   > priori unlikely, for the same reason that a random human is more likely   
   > to live in India or China than in Liechtenstein or Monaco.   
      
   To take this further, if the universe consisted of this local clump of   
   matter, say in effect the universe consists in a coarse grained sense a   
   central gravitating mass, then this would violate the observation the   
   universe is homogeneous. The homogeneous universe at large then has a   
   constant Ricci curvature or nabla R = 0, which is a feature of   
   cosmological spacetimes.   
      
   LC   
      
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