From: helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de   
      
   In article ,   
   Lawrence Crowell writes:   
      
   >>>> QUOTE   
   >>>> However, they require that we are in the   
   >>>> centre of a large overdense region, which seems improbable on other   
   >>>> grounds.   
   >>>> END QUOTE   
   >>>>   
   >>>> This is an interesting point. A counter argument came to mind. If one   
   >>>> were to wager, bet, where they are in the universe then guessing one is   
   >>>> from the denser part of the universe would increase the odds of winning   
   >>>> the wager.   
   >>>   
   >>> Not "overdense"!   
   >>>   
   >>> Actually PH, like LC, appears to have misread the paper, or...   
   >>> Here is a quotation from the conclusions:   
   >>   
   >> No, you have misunderstood John's COUNTERargument, namely that---all   
   >> else being equal---one is more likely to be in an overdense region of   
   >> the universe than in an underdense one, simply because there is more   
   >> matter---and thus, presumably, more life---in overdense regions.   
      
   > To take this further, if the universe consisted of this local clump of   
   > matter, say in effect the universe consists in a coarse grained sense a   
   > central gravitating mass, then this would violate the observation the   
   > universe is homogeneous. The homogeneous universe at large then has a   
   > constant Ricci curvature or nabla R = 0, which is a feature of   
   > cosmological spacetimes.   
      
   The universe appears to be approximately homogeneous on large enough   
   scales. Of course a single clump would violate this, but no-one is   
   proposing a single clump, nor a completely empty bubble. Rather, the   
   question is whether it is possible that inhomogeneities---within the   
   current observational constraints---can have observable effects and   
   perhaps explain some puzzling observations (though it is fair to say   
   that not all are puzzled by them).   
      
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