From: bergervo@xs4all.nl   
      
   On 2/13/2018 10:05 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:   
   > On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 12:52:38 AM UTC-6, Steven Carlip wrote:   
   >> On 2/11/18 3:42 AM, SEKI wrote:   
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   >>> As I already wrote in a number of previous postings, if the   
   >>> assumptions are correct, spin/polarization directions of paired   
   >>> particles are to be determined when they are produced, and are to be   
   >>> biased in accordance with the experimental setting.   
   >>   
   >> Experimental tests of Bell's inequality have been performed in   
   >> which the experimental settings are changed randomly *after*   
   >> the photons have been emitted.  I'm afraid your proposal is   
   >> ruled out by observation.   
   >>   
   >> See   
   >> Aktas et al., Phys. Rev. Lett. 114, 220404 (2015), arXiv:1504.08332   
   >> Handsteiner et al., Phys. Rev. Lett. 118, 060401 (2017),   
   >> 	arXiv:1611.06985   
     ...   
       ..   
   > What is really weird is not so much quantum mechanics, but rather   
   > classical or macroscopic physics. How stable states of matter occur that   
   > are stable against perturbations and are some selected basis in a   
   > quantum system is what is strange.   
      
   Do you have a preferred explanation? How can the (appearance) of   
   these classical states follow from the QM description of states   
   in a superposition with unitary time-evolution?   
      
   1) Is all this classical behavior just some kind of optical   
       illusion and are we really in a superposition?   
   2) Is the unitary time-evolution wrong and does the actual   
       time evolution project superpositions on single states?   
   3) Do you see a third way out?   
      
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