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   ben6993@hotmail.com to Lawrence Crowell   
   Re: page time and quantum error correcti   
   26 Feb 18 15:33:39   
   
   On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 7:58:39 PM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote:   
   > On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 11:02:05 AM UTC-6, ben...@hotmail.com   
   wrote:   
   > > LC,   
   > > Thank you for your pointer, on FQXi, to Strominger for an introduction   
   > > to BH hairs.  I have seen two of his 2017 videos of conference sessions   
   > > at Cambridge and Edinburgh.   
   > >   
   > > 1.  I suspect (by analogy with my "Rasch pairs" work making 1-D metrics   
   > > from binary judgments made on pairs of mundane classical objects) that   
   > > real particle pairs (for Hawking radiation) can only originate in a   
   > > spacetime. So in the limit as the (stretched) horizon is asymptotically   
   > > approached there is less and less chance of a real fermion pair being   
   > > created.  Maybe this could be related to the trans-planckian problem?   
   > > If I understand it well enough, the trans-planckinan problem is that the   
   > > pairs have huge energy pushing back their pair creation to the time of   
   > > the BH creation (and hence before the spacetime is lost on a stretched   
   > > horizon). That would seem to fit in with pair creation needing to be set   
   > > in a spacetime.  Has  the trans- planckian problem been overcome or has   
   > > it been pigeon-holed while work pushes ahead?   
   > >   
   > > 2.  I have a number of other questions but will limit them to one or two   
   > > related to CCCs.  Can Penrose's CCC nodes and BH's stretched boundaries   
   > > be equivalent.  One seen from inside our universe (query being inside a   
   > > BH) and the other seen within our universe (looking at a BH from outside   
   > > the BH)? Could the CCC node have hairs too?  Up until recently I thought   
   > > of a CCC node as being a singularity (a BEC of soft photons in one   
   > > state), but my rasch work suggests that the CCC spacetime could break   
   > > down gradually. Likewise, doesn't the internal metric of a BH break down   
   > > gradually as the Page Time is appproached?   
   > >   
   > > The smaller the confinement, the larger the energy required. QCD->   
   > > QED/weak -> gravity.  The less energy the bigger the theatre of   
   > > operations. Do gravitons formed from very soft photon entanglements have   
   > > a role connecting very large spacetimes to one another?   
   >   
   > I am not sure about Penrose's CCC, which is not regarded much by most   
   > cosmologists. The quantum numbers for a triplet entanglement state of   
   > two gluons is identical to the quantum numbers of a graviton. The only   
   > difference is that a gravition is weak, while gluons are strong. So a   
   > T-duality of r --> 1/r flips a strong coupling constant to a weak one.   
   >   
   > LC   
      
   If your graviton acts to attract two electrons to one another, will it   
   require two interactions, one per electron, or four? (In a much earlier   
   idea of mine I had two entangled photons attracting two particles   
   gravitationally using four interactions in total, but much later revised   
   that to one graviton only requiring two interactions.)   
      
   Can any such graviton of yours act to repel two particles, as in dark   
   energy?  (My previous preon model has gravitons in different generations   
   where the smallest or least complex graviton could exert repulsion while   
   the higher generation and more complex graviton caused general   
   attraction. Although both gravitons could, technically, attract and   
   repel.)   
      
   I note that Penrose's CCC is not highly regarded, despite my liking the   
   ideas in it.  The BH hairs and Hawking radiation seem very interesting   
   and IMO unitary would be the first property to suspect if one property   
   needs to be eschewed. (As some of the BH contents may pass through the   
   singularity into a third spacetime?)   
      
   I note the T duality, which I met in Susskind's onine lectures.  Are you   
   implying that gravitons only exist within a BH spacetime in connection   
   with its BH hairs?   
      
   Ben   
      
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