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|    Lawrence Crowell to ben...@hotmail.com    |
|    Re: page time and quantum error correcti    |
|    28 Feb 18 21:24:53    |
      From: goldenfieldquaternions@gmail.com              On Monday, February 26, 2018 at 9:33:41 AM UTC-6, ben...@hotmail.com wrote:       > On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 7:58:39 PM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote:       > > On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 11:02:05 AM UTC-6, ben...@hotmail.com       wrote:       > > > LC,=20       > > > Thank you for your pointer, on FQXi, to Strominger for an introduction       > > > to BH hairs. I have seen two of his 2017 videos of conference sessions       > > > at Cambridge and Edinburgh.=20       > > >=20       > > > 1. I suspect (by analogy with my "Rasch pairs" work making 1-D metrics       > > > from binary judgments made on pairs of mundane classical objects) that       > > > real particle pairs (for Hawking radiation) can only originate in a       > > > spacetime. So in the limit as the (stretched) horizon is asymptotically       > > > approached there is less and less chance of a real fermion pair being       > > > created. Maybe this could be related to the trans-planckian problem?=20       > > > If I understand it well enough, the trans-planckinan problem is that the       > > > pairs have huge energy pushing back their pair creation to the time of       > > > the BH creation (and hence before the spacetime is lost on a stretched       > > > horizon). That would seem to fit in with pair creation needing to be set       > > > in a spacetime. Has the trans- planckian problem been overcome or has       > > > it been pigeon-holed while work pushes ahead?=20       > > >=20       > > > 2. I have a number of other questions but will limit them to one or two       > > > related to CCCs. Can Penrose's CCC nodes and BH's stretched boundaries       > > > be equivalent. One seen from inside our universe (query being inside a       > > > BH) and the other seen within our universe (looking at a BH from outside       > > > the BH)? Could the CCC node have hairs too? Up until recently I thought       > > > of a CCC node as being a singularity (a BEC of soft photons in one       > > > state), but my rasch work suggests that the CCC spacetime could break       > > > down gradually. Likewise, doesn't the internal metric of a BH break down       > > > gradually as the Page Time is appproached?=20       > > >=20       > > > The smaller the confinement, the larger the energy required. QCD->       > > > QED/weak -> gravity. The less energy the bigger the theatre of       > > > operations. Do gravitons formed from very soft photon entanglements have       > > > a role connecting very large spacetimes to one another?       > >=20       > > I am not sure about Penrose's CCC, which is not regarded much by most       > > cosmologists. The quantum numbers for a triplet entanglement state of       > > two gluons is identical to the quantum numbers of a graviton. The only       > > difference is that a gravition is weak, while gluons are strong. So a       > > T-duality of r --> 1/r flips a strong coupling constant to a weak one.=20       > >=20       > > LC       >=20       > If your graviton acts to attract two electrons to one another, will it       > require two interactions, one per electron, or four? (In a much earlier       > idea of mine I had two entangled photons attracting two particles       > gravitationally using four interactions in total, but much later revised       > that to one graviton only requiring two interactions.)=20       >=20       > Can any such graviton of yours act to repel two particles, as in dark       > energy? (My previous preon model has gravitons in different generations       > where the smallest or least complex graviton could exert repulsion while       > the higher generation and more complex graviton caused general       > attraction. Although both gravitons could, technically, attract and       > repel.)=20       >=20       > I note that Penrose's CCC is not highly regarded, despite my liking the       > ideas in it. The BH hairs and Hawking radiation seem very interesting       > and IMO unitary would be the first property to suspect if one property       > needs to be eschewed. (As some of the BH contents may pass through the       > singularity into a third spacetime?)=20       >=20       > I note the T duality, which I met in Susskind's onine lectures. Are you       > implying that gravitons only exist within a BH spacetime in connection       > with its BH hairs?=20       >=20       > Ben              The graviton with respect to fermions is a bit odd. A four vertex       interaction of fermions with parallel spins can carry the same       quantum number as a graviton if this is charge neutral and massless.       A graviton interacting with a fermion results in something odd. A       spin 1/2 particle that absorbs a graviton with spin 2 then has       either spin 3/2 or 5/2. The first of these is a Rarita-Shwinger       field, and we know electrons etc do not convert into this in a       gravity field. The RS field can only be an off-shell field that       decays back into the fermion and graviton. The spin 5/2 is not       physical. What saves the day for there being a single three vertex       interaction is supersymmetry. A fermion is associated with a spin       1 particle in the (1/2, 1) SUSY doublet. Now the graviton can       interact with the fermion through its superpartner. So a fermion       quantum fluctuates into being a spin 1 boson that can absorb a       graviton. We may then have a nice 3-vertex interaction.=20              LC              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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